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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both
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both is not needed, Monk's work is rooted in only the stride-piano tradition, thus eliminate A, B and E.

C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted

D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted

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Going to try this by elimination. The first thing to look out here is the keyword for idiom "both". "both A and B" is the correct idiom. This eliminates A because of idiom error. In fact I get the feeling the the usage of 'both' is incorrect altogether here, since with 'both A and B' , A and B need to be at least somewhat parallel. In this case they are not. Thus eliminate B and E.

C just doesnt read correctly for me. Consider this :
Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in
many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

The 'he' is pretty ambiguous here.

Thus I will go with D.

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both
rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in
many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.
A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

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Was confused b/w B and D .

But it is the "tradition of both The smith and Duke eglinton" rather than
both in tradition of the smith and duke eglington".

My sat D.

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28 Jun 2007, 17:56
D. correct idiom: "both x and y" or "both in x and in y".

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

(A) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
(C) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
(D) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
(E) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

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Re: Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz : Whats wrong with this.... [#permalink]

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03 Jun 2010, 20:46
Post the question itself, please, that way it is easier to see the obvious mistakes, since we have to choose the best answer in GMAT!
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04 Jun 2010, 04:42
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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and
composer, produced a body of work both rooted
in the
stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and
Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from
the mainstream jazz repertory ..

Can we discuss whats wrong with this sentence? And how do we correct it?

Thanks

IMO this is not structurally parallel

idiom: both X and Y (here X & Y are parallel)

both rooted in the stride-piano tradition .. and Duke Ellington -> do you think this is parallel?
both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and in the stride-piano tradition of Willie Duke Ellington -> better

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

a) same
b) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
c) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
d) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
e) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

"rooted both" and "both rooted" : not required. The sentence means that the roots of the work are in the tradition of Willie and Duke Ellington.

Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington : here [highlight]and[/highlight] is used for the composers [highlight]not the roots[/highlight]

The sentence means that the work is rooted in the tradition of WS and DE.

a) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
b) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
c) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
d) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
e) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

C : ambiguous who
Hence D.

Both x and y
Both in x and in y
Both at X and at Y is correct. Both on X or on Y is correct.
Both should always have parallel forms associated to it.

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D is the answer because "both" is meaningless here and is not idiomatically correct.

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A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

In this both is not required at all
Hence A,B and E are out
that gives us C and D
C somehow does not sound right it suggest as if Thelonious Monk was rooted and not the work
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Friends I am struggling to understand the explanation provided by OG for the below mentioned SC. Can you guys help??

Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

A) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
(C) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
(D) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
(E) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

Would be great if you someone can provide answer and elaborate on the underlying reasons?

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The problem in A is the unnecessary intrusion of the word ‘both’; you can not say, 'a body of work" and then ‘both’ ‘‘Both’ has no plural referent.

In B and E, ‘both’ is misleading because there are no two traditions. There is only one tradition, i.e. the stride piano tradition.
In C there are two subjects to the main clause namely, Thelonious Monk and he. The second subject ‘he’ is redundant.
D is the correct choice with a proper contrasting and coordinating conjunction 'yet' that joins the two arms of this compound sentence and with the nosey word ‘both’ having been dropped
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His body of work is rooted in stride piano tradition. So there is no use of both
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Friends I am struggling to understand the explanation provided by OG for the below mentioned SC. Can you guys help??

Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

A) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
(C) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
(D) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
(E) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

Would be great if you someone can provide answer and elaborate on the underlying reasons?

My answer was D only . Lets consider the answer choice E it is wrong because:

Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and (in) Duke Ellington

both in x and in y....so in is missing in second part and also it is not implicit so E is wrong. Answer choice A is wordy and also rejected on the same grounds because it should have been:

both rooted in x and sthelse in y....but the construction is faulty.

Answer choice C is also wordy and improper usage of both as well. B has proper start but same problem with both.

To consider choice D:

Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted...(that is going to give some important information about work and that information is:)

in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington

and then the sentence follows:

yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

Here he properly refers to Monk. So correct choice is D.
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This one is a tough one ..
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05 Jun 2011, 21:02
Answer is D, It is OG 12 Q 88

who cases can be removed as other cases are simple hence A & C
similar to who appositives can also be ignored hence B

Between D & E it is tough
approach 1 - after both "x and y" are not parallel .. stride piano .. and duke .., so both will not work in this case
approach 2 - both is not required as body of work is rooted in stride piano tradition only
if it were written "body of work is rooted in both stride piano of tradition and dancing tradition" then it could have been correct

Hence D.. Yea it is tough one

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

(A) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
(C) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
(D) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
(E) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

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