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# There are 2 bars of gold-silver alloy; one piece has 2 parts

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09 Feb 2016, 04:09
I think this question is very ambiguous!

First, When you say 2 parts of Gold and 3 Parts of silver, are you talking about their Volume or Weight?
From the answers given here, you've obviously taken it as the weight. But common sense says that when you use 'parts' you usually mean volume.
Second, it does not just say that the ratio in the first bar was 2/3 and that the ratio in the second bar was 3/7. Instead, it says 2 parts of gold in the first bar and 3 parts of gold in the second bar. What if the 'parts' referred to an actual measurement. This would mean that in all there were 5 parts of Gold and 10 parts of Silver.

Going by these two ambiguities, one can solve for the densities of Gold and Silver and the answer for the question would be something around 2.5 kgs.
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09 Feb 2016, 04:58
icefrog wrote:
I think this question is very ambiguous!

First, When you say 2 parts of Gold and 3 Parts of silver, are you talking about their Volume or Weight?
From the answers given here, you've obviously taken it as the weight. But common sense says that when you use 'parts' you usually mean volume.
Second, it does not just say that the ratio in the first bar was 2/3 and that the ratio in the second bar was 3/7. Instead, it says 2 parts of gold in the first bar and 3 parts of gold in the second bar. What if the 'parts' referred to an actual measurement. This would mean that in all there were 5 parts of Gold and 10 parts of Silver.

Going by these two ambiguities, one can solve for the densities of Gold and Silver and the answer for the question would be something around 2.5 kgs.

The question is fine - it is not a Chemistry or Metallurgy question. It is a GMAT Quant question and in that context, the data given is very clear. Since there is no discussion of densities, the parts are by weight only.
Also, the question clearly says that the alloys are gold-silver. One bar has 2 parts of gold to 3 parts of silver. This gives you the ratio of gold to silver in bar 1 as 2:3. Similarly, the ratio of gold to silver in second bar is 3:7.
The term "parts" is commonly used to express ratios in GMAT world.
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09 Feb 2016, 06:51
Its very obvious to anybody that Gold and Silver have different densities. I wouldn't expect the question to discuss about densities.
'Parts' is actually used for measurement and when you're describing just one scenario, it can be taken just as the ratio. Because that is the only information it gives. But when you're describing two scenarios with the same 'parts', it gives much more information. Actually the question is not ambiguous, its just wrong.
And I've solved quite a few official GMAT problems and written a GMAT already. I've never seen such ambiguity. This could never be an official problem.
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10 Jun 2017, 01:34
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There are 2 bars of gold-silver alloy; one piece has 2 parts of gold to 3 parts of silver and another has 3 parts of gold to 7 parts of silver. If both bars are melted into 8 kg bar with the final gold to silver ratio of 5:11. What was the weight of the first bar?

A. 1 kg
B. 3 kg
C. 5 kg
D. 6 kg
E. 7 kg

1. (weight of first bar*proportion of gold) +(weight of second bar*proportion of gold) / (weight of first bar*proportion of silver) +(weight of second bar*proportion of silver)= 5/11
2. x*(2/5) + y*(3/10) / x*(3/5) + y*(7/10) =5/11
3. So x/y =1/7 and we have x+y=8
x=1 kg or weight of the first bar is 1 kg
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27 Feb 2018, 10:58
Hi All,

This question is essentially just a wordy weighted average question.

We're given the composition of 2 types of alloy bar:

Bar A: 2 parts gold, 3 parts silver = 2/5 gold = 40% gold
Bar B: 3 parts gold, 7 parts silver = 3/10 gold = 30% gold

We're going to "mix" these two bar "types" and end up with a mixture that is 5/16 gold

We know that the total mixture will be 8kg. We're asked how many of the kg are Bar A.

A = # of kg of Bar A
B = # of kg of Bar B

Now we can set up the weighted average formula:

(.4A + .3B) / (A + B) = 5/16

And cross-multiply and simplify....

6.4A + 4.8B = 5A + 5B
1.4A = 0.2B

Multiply by 5 to get rid of the decimals...

7A = B

A/B = 1/7

This tells us that the ratio of A to B is 1:7. Since the total weight is 8kg, we must have 1 kg of Bar A and 7 kg of Bar B.

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26 Mar 2019, 10:01
trahul4 wrote:
There are 2 bars of gold-silver alloy; one piece has 2 parts of gold to 3 parts of silver and another has 3 parts of gold to 7 parts of silver. If both bars are melted into 8 kg bar with the final gold to silver ratio of 5:11. What was the weight of the first bar?

A. 1 kg
B. 3 kg
C. 5 kg
D. 6 kg
E. 7 kg

Solving this algeabrically:

1st part: 2/3 (call it X weight)
2nd part: 2/7 (call it 8-x weight)

X & 8-X because if you call X 1st and Y 2nd, then X+Y=8, so reinstating Y=8-X. Now you got rid of a variable and you can express a 1 variable equation.

Now we can solve: 2/3*X+5/11*(8-X)=8*5/11

Solve for X you get 1
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