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# Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen

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Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark

(B) see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors mark

(C) been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of

(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking

(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors

Spoiler : A

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05 Jul 2012, 11:08
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The problem is not with the - ",with" or ",whose"

The issue is - Colors mark or colors that mark.
In the first underline it sounds as if colors are marking but in reality you are just trying to point out the significance of colors.

Let's try again - Trees have rings that mark the passage of time OR Trees have rings mark the passage of time .

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22 Mar 2008, 20:50
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neelesh wrote:
This question has been posted a few times before but looking for better explanations...

Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark

(B) see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors mark

(C) been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of

(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking

(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors

Spoiler : A

B out, no discussion
C: have...been seeing.. OUT ALSO
D:out: with...marking
E: out: "marking" should not modify "those"

A is remaining
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22 Mar 2008, 23:07
Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark --> Answer

(B) see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors mark use of see is ackward

(C) been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of passive voice

(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking passive voice

(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors incorrect usage of marking.
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23 Mar 2008, 02:35
B,C,D are straight out

in between A& E

A is the best,

E marking of colors is awkward.
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23 Mar 2008, 15:16
Present perfect tense – have typically [seen] is correct – eliminate B, C and D

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark

(B) see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors mark

(C) been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of

(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking

(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors

Between A and E:

E – with different colors that mark is better choice over marking by different color

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35. Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.
(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark
(B) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors mark
(C) been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of
(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking
(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors

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05 Aug 2009, 18:16
C/D out as in reason mentioned by others...

i wouldn't pick B...what is whose refering to? the gaping canyon or the layers of sediments?

struggling between A and E....but E's "marking" also seems to modify gaping canyon ...

but is the usage of "with" in A right? using POE it seems like A
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05 Aug 2009, 20:28
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"whose" can refer to objects. IMO B.

edit: it sort of annoys me when people throw out random rules like "whose cannot refer to inanimate objects" . before you make such bogus claims please check your sources kk thx
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05 Aug 2009, 21:34
A for me.

DenisSh, you tend to post OA really late, can you consider posting earlier so people don't have to second guess themselves?

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05 Aug 2009, 22:23
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Official Explanation

The key to getting the right answer for this question is recognizing that the underlined portion of the sentence should not contain a pronoun. The answer choices give you the option of replacing with different colors with whose different colors but the second option is wrong because, if you added whose, it could refer to the layers or the Canyon, and whenever a pronoun has more than one possible antecedent (the thing it refers to), it's used incorrectly. Eliminate (B) and (C). Eliminate (E) as well because the subject of "marking" is similarly unclear; is it the layers or the Canyon that is marking the passage of time? And (A) is better than (D) because, once again, seen is better than the wordier alternative been able to see. (A) is correct.
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29 Oct 2009, 15:38
Agree with A, but SC 1000 has D as the answer #985 (wonder why )
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30 Oct 2009, 05:35
I'll go with B!

Is there a SC expert that could confirm the OA (maybe a mistake in the SC1000)
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31 Oct 2009, 12:16
i dont catch why the pronoun whose is not correct. It actually can refer to things.

any further explanation?

i am with B.
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Updated on: 26 May 2010, 01:21
noboru wrote:
985. Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark
(B) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors mark
(C) been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of
(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking
(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors

B imho... on second thoughts (initial guess was D)... since parallelism holds
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30 May 2010, 04:52
IMO E.

As discussed we can simply eliminate B, C and D.
Out of A and E.

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark
(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors

In A 'with different colors' modifies gaping canyons and not the layers of sediments
whereas in E, participle 'marking' correctly modifies the 'the layers of sediments' in the gaping canyon.

get the point?

OA plz.

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29 Jun 2010, 18:12
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I will not take the credit for this as I found the explanation on another forum.

A has to be the right answer here.

B: the word 'whose' illogically refers to the 'the canyon'.

C: the word 'whose' illogically refers to the 'the canyon'. Also, the GMAT prefers Verb forms to noun forms. So 'mark' is better than 'are markers of', which is unnecessarily wordy as well. Also, 'have been seeing' distorts the original meaning by suggesting that the action has been going on nonstop.

D: 'been able to see' distorts the meaning by suggesting that the action was intended on part of the visitors. Also, 'colors marking' is not correct as it makes the sentence ambiguous. 'colors that mark' is non-ambiguous; 'that' refers to 'colors'.

E: Here 'marking' is an adverbial modifier. Usually adverbial modifiers modify the entire clause. So this choice is definitely wrong as the word 'marking' should unambiguously refer to (layers of) sediment.
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30 Jun 2010, 10:20
serhio wrote:
It is A,
Although the question is pretty confusing.
B is out because of the "whose" - it cann`t refer to a noun

whose can modify both a person and thing

for example:
...town, whose water supply

the reason B is wrong is because "different color marks" is incorrectly modifying "canyon"; it should be modifying "layers."

(E) is wrong because the use of "marking by different colors..." as a verb (or clause) modifier is TRYING to modifying "those have seen" ... which doesn't make logical sense.
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25 Oct 2010, 22:47
Noboru,
please do not forget to provide OA!

OA is A, according to 1000 series.

985. Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark- true canyon has different colors
(B) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors mark - read this as "different colors of canyon mark something" - they do not mark , they show something
(C) been seeing layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, whose different colors are markers of -unnecessary wordy
(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking- unnecessary wordy
(E) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, marking by different colors - the action of seeing "layers of sediment in the gaping", does not relate to "marking by different colors "
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26 Oct 2010, 21:02
A

B is wrong because 'whose' falsely modifies canyon.

Layers of sediments with different colors do the marking, not the canyon.

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