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# TO VERB VS FOR VERB-ING

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08 Nov 2014, 16:01
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Hi E-GMAT,
Source GMAT Prep, Question Pack 1.

Responding to the public's fascination with-and sometimes undue alarm over-possible threats from asteroids, a scale developed by astronomers rates the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet may collide with Earth.

A. a scale developed by astronomers rates the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet may
B. a scale that astronomers have developed rates how likely it is for a particular asteroid or comet to
C. astronomers have developed a scale to rate how likely a particular asteroid or comet will be to
D. astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet will
E. astronomers have developed a scale that rates the likelihood of a particular asteroid or comet that may.

They way I did it wrong, following the article.
'Responding to the public's fascination' can only modify astronomers -> A and B are out
When the astronomers were responding to the 'public's fascination...' of course their intention/aim was "to develop" a device TO RATE likelihood... - use of TO RATE is implied by original sentence.
=> C seems OK, D is out.
Use of "likelihood" and "may" is redundant => E is out.

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29 Jun 2015, 07:21
egmat

How would you solve this based on above article ?

Combining enormous physical strength with higher intelligence, the Neanderthals appear as equipped for facing any obstacle the environment could out in their path, but their relatively sudden disappearance during the Paleolithic era indicates that an inability to adapt to some environmental change led to their extinction.

a. appear as equipped for facing any obstacle the environment could put in their path,
b. appear as equipped to face any obstacle the environment could put in their paths,
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10 Oct 2015, 09:46
Controversial mortgage laws passed last year state that, if at any point during the maturation period of the loan the person in whose name it is taken is not able to meet the payments, that person’s spouse will have responsibilities that include paying the balance.

• will have responsibilities that include
• will be responsible to pay
• is responsible to pay
• will be responsible for paying
• is responsible for paying

Please explain the difference between B and D.
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10 Oct 2015, 10:29
Mechmeera wrote:
Controversial mortgage laws passed last year state that, if at any point during the maturation period of the loan the person in whose name it is taken is not able to meet the payments, that person’s spouse will have responsibilities that include paying the balance.

• will have responsibilities that include
• will be responsible to pay
• is responsible to pay
• will be responsible for paying
• is responsible for paying

Please explain the difference between B and D.

Mechmeera
This is not a typical to+verb vs for+verbing split. This split is usually tested to display purpose of some action.(See below)

here the idiom that is tested is responsible to someone for something. So D is correct. You can say:

A is responsible to B for paying the balance.
or simply

A is responsible for paying the balance.

Therefore D is correct.

In general, when it comes to show the purpose, to + verb is used when someone or some entity is actively involved to do something. for+verbing is used to show the passive purpose or use of something as is used in the scale problem above. When you say a scale for rating a likelihood. Scale is not actively rating the likelihood. Rating the likelihood is just a passive purpose or use of the scale.
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12 Oct 2016, 21:41
Hi Neeti,

I have one query which i want to clarify : to + verb are actually verbs or not ??
In the example,
In three months, biologist Glauco Machado gathered enough information about large numbers of a relatively unstudied order of arachnids to persuade an ant specialist at the university to advise him and to publish his first scientific paper.

I got confused whether gathered is the verb or to persuade is the verb ??
gathered - for me is surely not a verb-ed modifier because Glauco is the one doing the action of gathering info.

Kindly help!!!
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22 Nov 2016, 08:25
in C
I think that
reduction for decreasing
is correct

C is wrong because "reduction of prices" should be "reduction in prices".
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26 Aug 2017, 05:01
egmat wrote:
Hi folks,

Found an interesting question that tests the knowledge of this topic here. Try it out and post your analysis.

Scientists claim that the discovery of the first authenticated mammal bones in amber could provide important clues of determining, in addition to how, when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies.

A: of determining, in addition to how, when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies

B: in the determination of how and when the islands of the West Indies were colonized by mammals

C: to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies and when they did

D: for determining when the islands of the West Indies were colonized by mammals and how they were

E: for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies

Is the answer to this E?

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21 Aug 2018, 03:42
IMO the answer to this question is E

Here the use of for - verbing is used since the scientists have not specifically discovered with an aim to determine the colonization.

egmat wrote:
Hi folks,

Found an interesting question that tests the knowledge of this topic here. Try it out and post your analysis.

Scientists claim that the discovery of the first authenticated mammal bones in amber could provide important clues of determining, in addition to how, when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies.

A: of determining, in addition to how, when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies

B: in the determination of how and when the islands of the West Indies were colonized by mammals

C: to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies and when they did

D: for determining when the islands of the West Indies were colonized by mammals and how they were

E: for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies
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26 Feb 2019, 07:25
If for+verb-ing cannot be used to denote intent, how do you explain the following sentence as the correct official AC?

astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet will
https://gmatclub.com/forum/responding-t ... 80581.html

Thanks
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31 Jul 2019, 02:29
I am confused
I am afraid that
I got a prize for writing the book
is wrong sentence.
because in the sentence , "writing" can not refer to "I". this means "writing" is gerund, a general action.

I got a prize for my writing of the book
is correct.

doing can refer to subject of the sentence only in the special idiom with verbs.

I prohibit him from learning gmat soon

learning here refer to "him", not "I". so we do not have pattern " I get the prize for writing the book".

pls, explain thank.
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