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Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.

(A) double the apples that it has

(B) twice as many apples as it did

(C) as much as twice the apples it has

(D) two times as many apples as there were

(E) a doubling of the apples that it did
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Welp, my first post (and SC is my worst area), but I'll give it a shot:

(A) double the apples that it has

--- I imagine that you can't produce double the apples. You can produce double the number of apples. "has in 1910" also doesn't appear to agree.

(B) twice as many apples as it did

--- This looks pretty good to me. Twice as many -apples- as -it did in 1910-

(C) as much as twice the apples it has

--- This changes the meaning. It produces twice the number of apples, not as much as twice the apples (this may be wrong). Has doesn't agree here again.

(D) two times as many apples as there were

--- "As there were" does not make sense. The comparison isn't how many apples there were in 1910, but how many an acreage produced.

(E) a doubling of the apples that it did

-- "produces a doubling of the apples" ... where to begin? This doesn't make logical sense to me. Doubling of what?

B is the choice for me.

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I will go with B as well. It uses the correct idiom "as many X as". Pronoun "it" correctly refers to the accreage.

The use of "double" in A is certainly wrong.
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I'll go with B too.

I disregarded A, not only because of the use of "double" but also because the tense "has", which indicates that the action still continues. Am I wrong with the tense thing?

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Fellow smart GMATclubbers, this may not come as a very good news to you, but the OA is:


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(A) double the apples that it has
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(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did
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Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.

(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did


A. Too many wrong stuffs going on. Double could be associated with a number or a figure but not apples. Also "has" is incorrect. the verb needs to be parallel with the past tense of produced. So "has" doesnt do it. we need "did" This is often tested on the GMAT. An analogy could be:
I scored less than I had in the last exam. NOT CORRECT
I scored less than I did in the last exam. CORRECT
C. as much as cannot denote quantity. "much" denotes items that are not quantifiable.
D. Same problem as A. we need "did" not "were". Also two times as many is wordy.
E. Acreage cannot produce a doubling. It can produce double the number of apples.

B. CORRECT
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Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.

(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did


The only choices that make sense are B and E - look at the final verbe did but in E a doubling is clearly wrong and weird

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On hindsight the answer seems to be B.

The concept to learn here is the difference between Twice and Double

Searched all over the net, but found contradicting answers. Can someone throw some light on the same. :roll:
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On hindsight the answer seems to be B.

The concept to learn here is the difference between Twice and Double

Searched all over the net, but found contradicting answers. Can someone throw some light on the same. :roll:


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I think Double is used when some item/thing itself doubled for example:

There were only 11100000 MBA graduates in 1990, double the figure for 2012

So here figure itself double but for the question at hand, the applies did not double (it should have at-least read "double the nos of apples") so twice is preferred!

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Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.

(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did


A. Too many wrong stuffs going on. Double could be associated with a number or a figure but not apples. Also "has" is incorrect. the verb needs to be parallel with the past tense of produced. So "has" doesnt do it. we need "did" This is often tested on the GMAT. An analogy could be:
I scored less than I had in the last exam. NOT CORRECT
I scored less than I did in the last exam. CORRECT
C. as much as cannot denote quantity. "much" denotes items that are not quantifiable. Also we need "did"
D. Same problem as A. we need "did" not "were". Also two times as many is wordy.
E. Acreage cannot produce a doubling. It can produce double the number of apples.

B. CORRECT
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Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.

(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did


A. Too many wrong stuffs going on. Double could be associated with a number or a figure but not apples. Also "has" is incorrect. the verb needs to be parallel with the past tense of produced. So "has" doesnt do it. we need "did" This is often tested on the GMAT. An analogy could be:
I scored less than I had in the last exam. NOT CORRECT
I scored less than I did in the last exam. CORRECT
C. as much as cannot denote quantity. "much" denotes items that are not quantifiable.
D. Same problem as A. we need "did" not "were". Also two times as many is wordy.
E. Acreage cannot produce a doubling. It can produce double the number of apples.

B. CORRECT


thanks souvik101990. you post interesting and challenging problems. Pls continue to do so.

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No, contrary to much of the discussion here, this is not a question about the use of word "double."

Start with the split among has/did/were, that is, the choice between simple past and present perfect.

Use simple past here, because (1) all the action described by the verb has/did/were took place in 1910, (2) we use present perfect--has/have+past participle--only for an action or event that began in the past and continues (or whose effects continue) into the present. Eliminate A and C.

Use the pro-verb "did" to represent the verb "produced." Eliminate D.

The acreage produces apples ("twice as many apples") not an event ("a doubling of the apples"). Apart from this meaning issue, the GMAT generally prefers nice, concrete noun phrases to vague action nouns. Eliminate E.

That leaves B.

I would be very surprised to see a GMAT question settled by a choice between "double the number" and "twice as many."
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regarding ellipsis

"did" can be used if there is a verb in present tense
"do" can stand for a verb in present tense
"have done" can stand for a ver in present perfect.

pls, list the other cases of ellipsis, if you know

are the above cases correct?

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Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.

(A) double the apples that it has

(B) twice as many apples as it did

(C) as much as twice the apples it has

(D) two times as many apples as there were

(E) a doubling of the apples that it did


OG13 Q125. I have a query regarding 1 of the OG explanations. For Option A, the oG says "the comparative construction as many as is needed." Doe sthis mean that if the tense was correct (had/did), double the apples would still be wrong? To change it to include as many as, would it be double as many apples as it had/ did?

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Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.

(A) double the apples that it has

(B) twice as many apples as it did

(C) as much as twice the apples it has

(D) two times as many apples as there were

(E) a doubling of the apples that it did


OG13 Q125. I have a query regarding 1 of the OG explanations. For Option A, the oG says "the comparative construction as many as is needed." Doe this mean that if the tense was correct (had/did), double the apples would still be wrong? To change it to include as many as, would it be double as many apples as it had/ did?

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Construction with "double as many apples as" or "double the apples" is incorrect here, but "double the number of apples" is appropriate. If you want to use double in the choice, then following construction could be grammatically correct (but wordier than choice-B):
--The same amount of acreage produces double the the number of apples that it did in 1910

Also, use "twice as MANY <noun> as" -> for countable nouns
Use "twice as MUCH <noun> as" -> for un-countable nouns

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Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.

(A) double the apples that it has

(B) twice as many apples as it did

(C) as much as twice the apples it has

(D) two times as many apples as there were

(E) a doubling of the apples that it did


OG13 Q125. I have a query regarding 1 of the OG explanations. For Option A, the oG says "the comparative construction as many as is needed." Doe this mean that if the tense was correct (had/did), double the apples would still be wrong? To change it to include as many as, would it be double as many apples as it had/ did?

Thanks :)


Construction with "double as many apples as" or "double the apples" is incorrect here, but "double the number of apples" is appropriate. If you want to use double in the choice, then following construction could be grammatically correct (but wordier than choice-B):
--The same amount of acreage produces double the the number of apples that it did in 1910

Also, use "twice as MANY <noun> as" -> for countable nouns
Use "twice as MUCH <noun> as" -> for un-countable nouns


Thanks! :) So to confirm, we can only double a number of x, not double x (x=noun) right?

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Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.

(A) double the apples that it has

(B) twice as many apples as it did

(C) as much as twice the apples it has

(D) two times as many apples as there were

(E) a doubling of the apples that it did


OG13 Q125. I have a query regarding 1 of the OG explanations. For Option A, the oG says "the comparative construction as many as is needed." Doe this mean that if the tense was correct (had/did), double the apples would still be wrong? To change it to include as many as, would it be double as many apples as it had/ did?

Thanks :)


Construction with "double as many apples as" or "double the apples" is incorrect here, but "double the number of apples" is appropriate. If you want to use double in the choice, then following construction could be grammatically correct (but wordier than choice-B):
--The same amount of acreage produces double the the number of apples that it did in 1910

Also, use "twice as MANY <noun> as" -> for countable nouns
Use "twice as MUCH <noun> as" -> for un-countable nouns


Thanks! :) So to confirm, we can only double a number of x, not double x (x=noun) right?


Yes as its also ambiguous in meaning. Double the apple could also mean double the apple's size.
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