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# Top 10 vs Top 20 vs. Top 50 - We Interviewed Alums & Students

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Updated on: 10 Jan 2018, 18:35
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What is the Difference between Top 10, Top 20, and Top 50?

With so many people getting R1 admits, scholarships, and making life-changing decisions, I felt we needed to get some case studies and realities that would paint you accurate pictures what it really means to attend a Top 10 or a Top 20 or a Top 50 MBA program. What if you got an offer from a Top 20 vs. a Top 50 with a full scholarship - which offer to take? I am hoping this post will answer that specific question.

I reached out a number of alums and a few 2nd year students with 7 simple questions. Here is their candid answers. While most did not care, I promised not to reveal their identities to give them privacy and peace. They may of course change that on their own but I won't publish their names. Here we go:

Part 1: Kellogg vs. Anderson vs. Pepperdine (Below)

Part 2: Fuqua vs. Ross vs. UNC

Part 2: Fuqua vs. Ross vs. UNC Posted on Jan 10, 2018

If you are a current student or Alum and would like to submit your experience, please PM me or post here answers to these 7 questions:

1. What school did you choose and Why?
2. How were the Classes?
3. What can you say about Classmates?
4. How was the Challenge Level?
5. How would you rate Career Services?
6. What did Recruiting look like?
7. Alumni?

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04 Jan 2018, 11:53
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Wonderful post. A must read for everyone. Personally, I learnt a lot about the student body and the differences in the way these colleges operate. And also, important Learning point is that even though top colleges (Kellog and Anderson) are offering much better career services, At the end it is up to us to make use of these.

bb : Thanks for creating this post. Some of my friends used to argue with me that there isn't much difference in the quality, student life,reputation or services offered by Top 30 colleges. I will show them this post and kick their ass.
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07 Jan 2018, 03:22
I think one of the things that this analysis needs to account for is the differences of experiences for international vs domestic students. If I were a domestic student, I would probably go out on a limb and choose a top 20-30 school and hustle my way to recruitment. As an international student, however, my hustle will still be at the mercy of big companies which qualify for H1B sponsorship. So considering that variable, top 15 schools make more sense just because of the sheer number of MNCs they attract every year. Thoughts?
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souvik101990 wrote:
I think one of the things that this analysis need to account for is the differences of experiences for international vs domestic students. If I were a domestic students, I would probably go out on a limb and choose a top 20-30 school and hustle my way to recruitment. As an international student, however, my hustle will still be at the mercy of big companies which qualify for H1B sponsorship. So considering that variable, top 15 schools make more sense just because of the sheer number of MNCs they attract every year. Thoughts?

This is a fair point and something that makes 1 year MBA Programs not much sense for internationals who are not sponsored candidates. But the underlying points mentioned above still remain the same. You still have to work yourself towards getting an internship or a job even when you go to a top 10 school. No one is going to serve you any job on a platter!!

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07 Jan 2018, 08:26
ENGRTOMBA2018 wrote:
souvik101990 wrote:
I think one of the things that this analysis need to account for is the differences of experiences for international vs domestic students. If I were a domestic students, I would probably go out on a limb and choose a top 20-30 school and hustle my way to recruitment. As an international student, however, my hustle will still be at the mercy of big companies which qualify for H1B sponsorship. So considering that variable, top 15 schools make more sense just because of the sheer number of MNCs they attract every year. Thoughts?

This is a fair point and something that makes 1 year MBA Programs not much sense for internationals who are not sponsored candidates. But the underlying points mentioned above still remain the same. You still have to work yourself towards getting an internship or a job even when you go to a top 10 school. No one is going to serve you any job on a platter!!

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Fully agreed. Everyone - I mean even the folks I know at HBS - paid their dues in blood, sweat, and tears to get what they want. Certain schools give their students better exposure to recruiters, but it comes down to hustle and interview skills.
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07 Jan 2018, 08:32
Totally agree with ENGRTOMBA2018 - how about this though - keeping the hustle and the interview prep variable constant - would you say that landing a job at a top 15 would be similar to a top 30-40 school? No, right?

That being said though, I know way too many people struggling to get internships/jobs even at top 5 or top 10 schools so it does seem like a really heavy competitive space out there.
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07 Jan 2018, 09:27
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ENGRTOMBA2018 wrote:
souvik101990 wrote:
I think one of the things that this analysis need to account for is the differences of experiences for international vs domestic students. If I were a domestic students, I would probably go out on a limb and choose a top 20-30 school and hustle my way to recruitment. As an international student, however, my hustle will still be at the mercy of big companies which qualify for H1B sponsorship. So considering that variable, top 15 schools make more sense just because of the sheer number of MNCs they attract every year. Thoughts?

This is a fair point and something that makes 1 year MBA Programs not much sense for internationals who are not sponsored candidates. But the underlying points mentioned above still remain the same. You still have to work yourself towards getting an internship or a job even when you go to a top 10 school. No one is going to serve you any job on a platter!!

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Fully agreed. Everyone - I mean even the folks I know at HBS - paid their dues in blood, sweat, and tears to get what they want. Certain schools give their students better exposure to recruiters, but it comes down to hustle and interview skills.

This is a very important point that incoming students and prospective students must keep in mind that even if you crack H/S/W you still have to show up and do really well during networking events and interviews. Most of the time, American companies are meritocratic and dont care about anything else. Its an important consideration. As to your point of better exposure, definitely true! Some schools will provide you tremendous exposure to traditional finance (Booth/Wharton) , some will provide you unmatched consulting exposure (Kellogg, Stanford) while H/S will provide you great exposure to top VC/PE/HF/GM roles. So your application strategy should also look at these small but very important nuances.

Hope this discussion helps incoming and prospective students in making their decisions.
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07 Jan 2018, 09:39
souvik101990 wrote:
Totally agree with ENGRTOMBA2018 - how about this though - keeping the hustle and the interview prep variable constant - would you say that landing a job at a top 15 would be similar to a top 30-40 school? No, right?

That being said though, I know way too many people struggling to get internships/jobs even at top 5 or top 10 schools so it does seem like a really heavy competitive space out there.

Its easy to keep certain variables constant but given the current scenario around H1B and Trump Administration's take on international workers in US, you must keep the variability of interview and hustle in mind while evaluating options as top 5/10 schools provide unmatched resources say for example the case prep book at Kellogg is getting used at all top 10 schools as the go to guide.

That being said and for the sake of this conversation, yes, even if you keep hustle and interview prep, top 5/10 schools will always be worth the money given the tremendous exposure you will get through your interactions with not only great faculty but top execs at big companies throughout the world. The other big distinction in favor of top 5/10 is the fact that these schools place well outside US as well, which cant be said about other international or top 20/30 schools in US.

To your point about struggle of international students, it has always been extremely competitive, especially for top 5/10 schools as most of the international students are coming in with great GMATs, GPAs and a plan of attack on what to do during MBA. This much focus will only create more competitive space. this much competition is good, IMO, as it weeds out people who are not serious or who do not a set method of attack. It is not an ideal world and in order to achieve something, you must be at your true best!
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