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Straight E...the argument doesnt oppose the final position...it begins by asking an answer to a question and finally ends up taking a particular position after discussion.
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Straight E...the argument doesnt oppose the final position...it begins by asking an answer to a question and finally ends up taking a particular position after discussion.


Well, IMO, the argument does seem to be OPPOSING an implicit assumption that because last year the jobs were great so this year too they would be great. The argument seems to be advocating a stance against this position (though this position has not been stated anywhere in the passage) - but the TONE implies it.


Anyway - E finally rules.
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vineetgupta wrote:
Straight E...the argument doesnt oppose the final position...it begins by asking an answer to a question and finally ends up taking a particular position after discussion.


Well, IMO, the argument does seem to be OPPOSING an implicit assumption that because last year the jobs were great so this year too they would be great. The argument seems to be advocating a stance against this position (though this position has not been stated anywhere in the passage) - but the TONE implies it.


Anyway - E finally rules.


You are right...the author uses a negative tone to support his conclusion.
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Last year a record number of new manufacturing jobs were created. Will this year
bring another record? Well, any new manufacturing job is created either within
an existing company or by the start-up of a new company.
Within existing firms,
new jobs have been created this year at well below last year’s record pace. At the
same time, there is considerable evidence that the number of new companies starting
up this year will be no higher than it was last year and there is no reason to think
that the new companies starting up this year will create more jobs per company
than did last year’s start-ups.
So clearly, the number of new jobs created this year
will fall short of last year’s record.
In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following
roles?
A. The first provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument;
the second is a claim that argument challenges.
B. The first is a generalization that the argument seeks to establish; the second is
a conclusion that the argument draws in order to support that generalization.
C. The first is a generalization that the argument seeks to establish; the second is
a judgment that has been advanced in order to challenge that generalization.
D. The first is presented as obvious truth on which the argument is based; the
second is a claim that has been advanced in support of a position that the
argument opposes.
E. The first is presented as obvious truth on which the argument is based; the second is a
judgment advanced in support of the main conclusion of the argument.


Can we please have the OA? Thanks.
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agree with E

First is presented as a general statement

and the second supports the argument
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Tough

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I went against D because the guy isn't opposing an argument, he's making one.

I hate these questions, after a while the letters start to float around, as they do in Alphabetti's soup...... yah...... Mental Endurance
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Good question.

I can see picking D after being mentally exhausted and halfway through GMAT.
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Hey guys, it's a modified question from the OG 13 --> it's not the original version. In the original version other parts of the sentence are underlined and the correct answer is A.
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@BrainLab : thanks for bringing this to the notice. I have made necessary changes.
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to be honest I've stoped searching after choice A. It has stated precisely the structure of the bold face part.

1. Prediction: the new companies starting up this year WILL
2. Conclusion: CLEARLY... the number of new jobs created this year will fall short of last year’s record.

--> A CORRECT: First is a prediction that supports the conclusion, second is this conclusion.

And I think it's not a Sub 600 Level question. Describe a role questions can be easily attributed to 600-700 and above Level questions, taking in to account, that one has to read a text for about 40 sec.....
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Hey guys,

bringing this topic back to life with one question:

how can you start a prediction with word "surely" as in "and surely the new companies starting up this year will create no more jobs per company than did last year’s start-ups". This is what threw me off in A) and I hate myself for that as it is for sure the best answer. I also know that "surely" isn't underlined - does that mean that it should not be taken into consideration in "describe the role" questions?

Please kindly advise as this is not the first time I've made a mistake because of applying a bit of logic. Surely and prediction just don't make any sense to me, however you twist it and turn it.

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Hi Jay.. its not a fact "surely" does not mean it has happened and can be taken granted. Its is predicted that "surely" it will happen. In Gmat if you see words like It "must be true", "Surely will happen" are all claims and since it has not happened yet its a prediction. Hope this helps
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What is author's main conclusion?

the number of new jobs created this year will fall short of last year’s record.

What does he offer in support of the conclusion?

a) Within existing firms, new jobs have been created this year at well below last year’s record pace.
b) there is considerable evidence that the number of new companies starting up will be no higher this year than it was last year.
c) new companies starting up this year will create no more jobs per company than did last year’s start-ups.

a,b,c are premises that support author's conclusion. B1 is the support B2 is the conclusion.

Option A.
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Originally posted by woohoo921 on 20 Feb 2022, 14:45.
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I am a bit confused on the difference (if there is any) between providing support for the main conclusion vs. making a judgement advanced in support of that main conclusion. Is it because the first bolded statement is more factual (telling us just what is happening), and the second is expressed more so as an opinion using the wording "there is no reason to think"?

Would this made-up answer choice be incorrect: "the first provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument; the second provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument"? Doesn't the second statement still technically provide support?

I realize that this might be nitpicky, but I am trying to pick up on the subtle differences in wording. Thank you in advance :)


Your made up answer would be incorrect because the second is the conclusion--it doesn't provide evidence in support of the conclusion.

The difference between 'providing support for the main conclusion' and 'making a judgment advanced in support of that main conclusion' is pretty subtle. The biggest issue here is that the second boldface doesn't support the conclusion. It *is* the conclusion.

Originally posted by ReedArnoldMPREP on 20 Feb 2022, 14:51.
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Thank you, Reed! To clarify your response, isn't "So clearly, the number of new jobs created this year will fall short of last year's record" the main conclusion?

The second boldface, "there is no reason to think that the new companies starting up this year will create more jobs per company than did last year's startups" is the judgement advanced in support of the main conclusion "So clearly, the number of new jobs created this year will fall short of last year's record" the main conclusion?" ....no?


I see the following question at the top of this thread. Is a different one popping up for you?

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Last year a record number of new manufacturing jobs were created. Will this year bring another record? Well, any new manufacturing job is created either within an existing company or by the start-up of a new company. Within existing firms, new jobs have been created this year at well below last year’s record pace. At the same time, there is considerable evidence that the number of new companies starting up will be no higher this year than it was last year, and surely the new companies starting up this year will create no more jobs per company than did last year’s start-ups. Clearly, it can be concluded that the number of new jobs created this year will fall short of last year’s record.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

(A) The first is a prediction that, if accurate, would provide support for the main conclusion of the argument; the second is that main conclusion.

(B) The first is a prediction that, if accurate, would provide support for the main conclusion of the argument; the second is a conclusion drawn in order to support that main conclusion.

(C) The first is an objection that the argument rejects; the second is the main conclusion of the argument.

(D) The first is an objection that the argument rejects; the second presents a conclusion that could be drawn if that objection were allowed to stand.

(E) The first is a claim that has been advanced in support of a position that the argument opposes; the second is a claim advanced in support of the main conclusion of the argument.
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