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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car
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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car



IMO answer should be A.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager (Looks fine, right comparison between learn and tinker)
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car (learning is compared to a teenager, which is wrong comparison)
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager (Like is used to compared the nouns, so "Like" is a wrong here)
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car (wrong comparison, learning compared with a teenager)
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car ( Same as C, "Like" cannot be used)

Correct me if I am wrong.
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New post 27 Jun 2012, 11:42
Agree with A. By the way just a general question is Internship counted as Work Experience?


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The only possible choice is A. Other choices used the wrong comparison items "Trying to learn some basics of programming" with "teenager", or the wrong usage of the word "like".
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I would actually lean towards C. A does not retain parallel verb forms; you have "trying" paired with "tinker". B, D and E, meanwhile, have slightly differing meanings, on account of their having shifted slightly too much of the focus from the act of tinkering to the teenager performing said tinkering.

This leaves C as my preferred response.
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Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car




IMO -A
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The answer must be C. First thing to note is that this is indeed a comparison. As long as we compare a noun or gerund with yet another similar thing, it is ok to use – like -. We must remember that trying or tinkering are not verbs here, but simply gerunds. However, more importantly, we must compare the gerund of trying with yet another similar gerund. We should not compare the process of trying with a human being as a teenager. In addition, the comparison should maintain //ism.

(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager - Trying and to tinker is un//; therefore, dropped
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car – compares trying to a teenager; dropped
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager – compares correctly trying with tinkering; correct choice.
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car – compares tinkering with a teenager
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car; though trying is compared to tinkering , the intrusion of the possessive teenager’s dilutes the comparison somewhat as if there is something specific as a teenager’s tinkering and it is a universal happening . The straight comparison of trying with tinkering in C is superior and hence, we have to choose that as the best among the lot.


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Trying to learn must be parallel with tinkering....
Reason: simple gerund phrases must be parallel with only the simple gerund phrases.
Here both the gerund phrase are simple gerund phrase
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It can't be C because of the word "like". "Like" is used to compare nouns with nouns like-vs-as-usage-85626.html

Therefore it's A.
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It can't be C because of the word "like". "Like" is used to compare nouns with nouns like-vs-as-usage-85626.html

Therefore it's A.


LIKE CAN BE USED TO COMPARE NOUNS AS WELL AS NOUN PHRASES.
Regarding your answer which is A, A is not parallel.
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It can't be C because of the word "like". "Like" is used to compare nouns with nouns like-vs-as-usage-85626.html

Therefore it's A.


LIKE CAN BE USED TO COMPARE NOUNS AS WELL AS NOUN PHRASES.
Regarding your answer which is A, A is not parallel.


Even learning that you can use "like" to compare noun phrases, A is parallel. "to tinker" and "to learn".
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Is there no meaning error if you go with "the same as"? Obviously, learning to program is not the same as tinkering a car, isn't it?
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It can't be C because of the word "like". "Like" is used to compare nouns with nouns like-vs-as-usage-85626.html

Therefore it's A.


LIKE CAN BE USED TO COMPARE NOUNS AS WELL AS NOUN PHRASES.
Regarding your answer which is A, A is not parallel.


Even learning that you can use "like" to compare noun phrases, A is parallel. "to tinker" and "to learn".


Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager

Look there are three mistakes with this option.
1) both the sides of the parallel marker should be parallel. Here the parallel marker is "the same as". So how come trying to learn is parallel with tinker with a car.
2) the usage of "when" is wrong. When is only used if you are supposed to mention a time duration at which some event occured. In this case the usage should be in the context of as. Ex- as an adolescent U acted like a clown. Had it been "as a teenager", then this mistake would have rectified.
3) its wordier. If the same thing can be said by using just a single word then why use three.

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Is there no meaning error if you go with "the same as"? Obviously, learning to program is not the same as tinkering a car, isn't it?


they are similar but not the same.
For example- doing a maths homework is like having yourself beaten by sticks. :P
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Is there no meaning error if you go with "the same as"? Obviously, learning to program is not the same as tinkering a car, isn't it?


they are similar but not the same.
For example- doing a maths homework is like having yourself beaten by sticks. :P


haha yeah exactly. So why would answer A be correct if it's using "the same as" when they are obviously not the same?
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plui31 wrote:
siddharthasingh wrote:
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Is there no meaning error if you go with "the same as"? Obviously, learning to program is not the same as tinkering a car, isn't it?


they are similar but not the same.
For example- doing a maths homework is like having yourself beaten by sticks. :P


haha yeah exactly. So why would answer A be correct if it's using "the same as" when they are obviously not the same?


That's what I am saying. A is incorrect.
There are two mistakes with A. One is parallelism and the other is usage of "same as".

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unable to choose between C and D :(

C - like is used to compare nouns
D- Trying to learn is compared to teenager

Other choices are incorrect
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Ankit04041987 wrote:
Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
(A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
(B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
(C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
(D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
(E) like the teenager’s tinkering with a car


Hi Ankit. Next time can you pls highlight the underlined portion of the sentence. It becomes easier to understand the question

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I would actually lean towards C. A does not retain parallel verb forms; you have "trying" paired with "tinker". B, D and E, meanwhile, have slightly differing meanings, on account of their having shifted slightly too much of the focus from the act of tinkering to the teenager performing said tinkering.

This leaves C as my preferred response.


C - idiom 'like' is used correctly IMO. Consider : learning to drive is like and xyz trying to abc.
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