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New post 04 Apr 2017, 23:04
8min 10sec. all correct.
I believe that the time taken was excess considering the difficulty of the passage.
Please can any one suggest on the appropriate timing for this passage.

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New post 17 Jun 2017, 02:24
Hi Gmatninja, Gmatninja2.
I believe majority of passage covers Lebsock's work in detail
however I was not able to understand whether the middle portion of
passage refers to 18th or 19th century? Furthermore, how can delivering babies
be a job which can be taken up by men.
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Hi Gmatninja, Gmatninja2.
I believe majority of passage covers Lebsock's work in detail
however I was not able to understand whether the middle portion of
passage refers to 18th or 19th century? Furthermore, how can delivering babies
be a job which can be taken up by men.

Regarding the second question, "delivering" a baby is not the same as "giving birth" to a baby. For example, if a doctor (often an OB-GYN, or "obstetrician-gynecologist", in the US) is present to assist with the birth, that doctor is said to "deliver" the baby, while the mother, of course, is the one who "gives birth" to the child.

The middle portion deals with the "historiographical debate as to whether women gained or lost status in the nineteenth century as compared with the eighteenth century." Because this portion is comparing women's status in the nineteenth century to their status in the eighteenth century, this section actually deals with BOTH centuries.

For example, consider the following excerpt: "while women gained autonomy in some areas, especially in the private sphere, they lost it in many aspects of the economic sphere." This means that during the eighteenth century women had MORE autonomy in many aspects of the economic sphere than they would later have in the nineteenth century. Similarly, women owned a higher proportion of real estate in the nineteenth century than they did in the eighteenth century.

I hope that helps!
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New post 22 Jul 2017, 02:26
All correct except question 5 took 10 min to complete it.
The answer to question 5 is based solely on the following lines in the passage .
She concludes that while women gained autonomy in some areas, especially in the private sphere, they lost it in many aspects of the economic sphere.
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Got 5/6. (Got Question number 5 wrong)
10 minutes 27 Seconds :-)

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Can someone explain Q81?

Dear akankshasoneja
Here is the text of question #81.

81. The passage suggests that Buel and Buel’s biography of Mary Fish provides evidence for which of the following views of women’s history?
(A) Women have lost power in relation to men since the colonial era.
(B) Women of the colonial era were not as likely to be concerned with their status as were women in the nineteenth century.
(C) The colonial era was not as favorable for women as some historians have believed.
(D) Women had more economic autonomy in the colonial era than in the nineteenth century.
(E) Women’s occupations were generally more respected in the colonial era than in the nineteenth century.


Tell me, what do you understand what do you not understand? What is your choice for the answer, and what don't you understand about the OA?

Mike :-)




Hello dear mike

In all the passage nowhere mentioned that colonial age ( or golden age) was not favorable for women! it is not discussed, we just see Buel's wrote is guideless and ambiguous .... could you explain, please?

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soodia wrote:
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Can someone explain Q81?

Dear akankshasoneja
Here is the text of question #81.

81. The passage suggests that Buel and Buel’s biography of Mary Fish provides evidence for which of the following views of women’s history?
(A) Women have lost power in relation to men since the colonial era.
(B) Women of the colonial era were not as likely to be concerned with their status as were women in the nineteenth century.
(C) The colonial era was not as favorable for women as some historians have believed.
(D) Women had more economic autonomy in the colonial era than in the nineteenth century.
(E) Women’s occupations were generally more respected in the colonial era than in the nineteenth century.


Tell me, what do you understand what do you not understand? What is your choice for the answer, and what don't you understand about the OA?

Mike :-)

Hello dear mike

In all the passage nowhere mentioned that colonial age ( or golden age) was not favorable for women! it is not discussed, we just see Buel's wrote is guideless and ambiguous .... could you explain, please?

Dear soodia,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

The middle of the passage talk about Lesbock's book, noting a few different ways in which this shows the empowerment of women during the colonial period. Then we get the crucial pivotal point, at the beginning of the last sentence, "In contrast . . ." That's huge. That tells us that the material in this sentence is intended to present some alternative to what has been discussed in Lesbock's book. Here's that whole last sentence:
In contrast, Buel and Buel’s biography provides ample raw material for questioning the myth, fostered by some historians, of a colonial golden age in the eighteenth century but does not give the reader much guidance in analyzing the controversy over women’s status.
Thus, Buel and Buel give "ample raw material," i.e. evidence, "for questioning the myth . . . of a colonial golden age." Now, admittedly, if we are looking at this sentence in isolation, we would not be able to interpret the content of that ambiguous phrase "colonial golden age." Because that sentence begins with "in contrast," we know that we have to interpret everything in the sentence in terms of what came before. Lesbock provided some examples of positive empowerment for women in the 18th century, although Lesbock's nuanced analysis also pointed out ways that women didn't have power, so Lesbock herself is not indicating a "golden age." We could imagine that a less nuanced historian might simply grab on to those positive examples and portray this time as a "golden age" of women's rights. Buel and Buel provide ample evidence against that view.

Does all this make sense?
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HI mikemcgarry, GMATNinja

According to the passage, Lebsock’s work differs from Buel and Buel’s work in that Lebsock’s work
(A) uses a large number of primary sources
(B) ignores issues of women’s legal status
(C) refuses to take a position on women’s status in the eighteenth century
(D) addresses larger historiographical issues
(E) fails to provide sufficient material to support its claims

OA is D why not E?
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HI mikemcgarry, GMATNinja

According to the passage, Lebsock’s work differs from Buel and Buel’s work in that Lebsock’s work
(A) uses a large number of primary sources
(B) ignores issues of women’s legal status
(C) refuses to take a position on women’s status in the eighteenth century
(D) addresses larger historiographical issues
(E) fails to provide sufficient material to support its claims

OA is D why not E?

Dear NandishSS,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

The passage clearly says: "Buel and Buel’s biography of Mary Fish (1736–1818) makes little effort to place her story in the context of recent historiography on women. Lebsock, meanwhile, attempts not only to write the history of women in one southern community, but also to redirect two decades of historiographical debate . . . " Thus, Lebsock is dealing with the modern historiographical debate, whereas Buel and Buel seemed to avoid that entirely. This is a big difference, and (D) summarizes this.

The passage also says, "Buel and Buel’s biography provides ample raw material for questioning the myth, fostered by some historians, of a colonial golden age in the eighteenth century" --therefore, Buel and Buel provided at least some material to support their claim. Was it "sufficient" material to support their claim? That's unclear, but certainly the author makes no claim one way or the other on this point. (E) is not supported.

Always remember that a person was writing this passage, and this person had opinions. The GMAT is always interested in those opinions. Right at the beginning, the author sets up this strong P vs. Q contrast between the two works. Furthermore, the language "makes little effort" is about as strong and emphatic as academic writing gets! The author is clearly showing an opinion here, and that's what the question is getting at.

Does all this make sense?
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Time taken - 11 minutes

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