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Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures of two-thirds of the states.

A. was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it

B. was never applied, there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally

C. was never applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally

D. has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

E. has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

Why E is better than D?


Seems like the OA is E. My question is, why is past perfect preferred to simple past?


We use present perfect to refer to something that happened in the past but still relevant to present. Because the second part in all choices indicates the present tense, it implies that not-applicability-of-the-provision still holds good now and hence we need to use present perfect.
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Q. Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied,Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures of two-thirds of the states.

(A) was never applied,Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it

(B) was never applied,there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally

(C) was never applied,whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally

(D) has never been applied,whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

(E) has never been applied,Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

Please explain.


A, B and C are out because it should be "has never been applied". Between D and E, D is out because "whereby" is awkward. That leaves E.


D is eliminated not because it is awkward (when there is no better alternative available, in terms of grammar, completeness, etc., awkwardness is acceptable). The thing is D, by using 'whereby', makes the whole sentence incomplete and E makes a complete sentence.
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A,B, and C: wrong tense uses. Between D and E, E sounds lot better.
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Has been is the wrong tense,hence chose E.
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Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures of two-thirds of the states.

A. was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it

B. was never applied, there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally

C. was never applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally

D. has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

E. has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

Why E is better than D?


Choce D is wrong because it does not have any independent clause. Whereby means "in which".
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Can anyone explain why "was never applied" is wrong in A , B & C?
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Can anyone explain why "was never applied" is wrong in A , B & C?



"was never applied" is wrong because it's an incorrect tense. Using the past tense implies that the provision can't be applied anymore because it or the constitution doesn't exist anymore. The provision still exists and the Constitution that still stands, so the provision could still be applied. We need to used the present perfect tense "has never been applied" to suggest a beginning in the past but effects that are still ongoing.

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Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures of two-thirds of the states.

A. was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it

B. was never applied, there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally

C. was never applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally

D. has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

E. has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

Why E is better than D?



D is wrong because in D , there is no Main clause .D does not make a complete sentence.

Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied has never been applied= Dependent clause
whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so= Dependent clause

Whereby = in which

Ony E clears this sentence fragmentation and also other errors.

E is a complete sentence.
Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied has never been applied= Dependent clause
Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so= Main clause...

( page 239 and 303 of verbal review 2nd edition.)
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SPLIT1) AFTER THE COMMA"," WHEN YOU SEE A MODIFYING PHRASE YOU NEED TO PUT THE WORD IT MODIFIES AFTER THE COMMA. B,C,D. "WHEREBY" IS REDUNDANT TOO.

SPLIT 2) IN OPTION A, "WAS NEVER APPLIED" IS WRONG BECAUSE THE PROVISION HAPPENED IN THE PAST BUT IT IS RELEVANT TO PRESENT, THEREFORE YOU NEED THE PRESENT PERFECT "HAS NEVER BEEN APPLIED". A IS OUT.

SPLIT3) THE WORD "IT" CANNOT REFER TO ACTION, IT MUST REFERE TO A NOUN. THE WORD "IT" IS UNCLEAR AT BEST. A IS OUT.
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Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures of two-thirds of the states.

A. was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it - Pronoun it has no noun referent . Verb tense was never applied is incorrect here

B. was never applied, there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally - - Pronoun it has no noun referent . Verb tense was never applied is incorrect here

C. was never applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally - - Pronoun it has no noun referent .Verb tense was never applied is incorrect here ; usage of whereby creates a sentence fragment

D. has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so - usage of whereby creates a sentence fragment

E. has never been applied, Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so - Correct

Answer E
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Can anyone explain why "was never applied" is wrong in A , B & C?



"was never applied" is wrong because it's an incorrect tense. Using the past tense implies that the provision can't be applied anymore because it or the constitution doesn't exist anymore. The provision still exists and the Constitution that still stands, so the provision could still be applied. We need to used the present perfect tense "has never been applied" to suggest a beginning in the past but effects that are still ongoing.

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I think simple past tense can not go with "never". so, "was never applied" itself. we do not need to analyse the meaning relation of this part to the rest of the sentence.

am i correct? can you give your idea on my thinking
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Can anyone explain why "was never applied" is wrong in A , B & C?



"was never applied" is wrong because it's an incorrect tense. Using the past tense implies that the provision can't be applied anymore because it or the constitution doesn't exist anymore. The provision still exists and the Constitution that still stands, so the provision could still be applied. We need to used the present perfect tense "has never been applied" to suggest a beginning in the past but effects that are still ongoing.

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I think simple past tense can not go with "never". so, "was never applied" itself. we do not need to analyse the meaning relation of this part to the rest of the sentence.

am i correct? can you give your idea on my thinking


"Never" can be used with simple past. Consider the following sentence:

I did not go there ever. .. correct

The above sentence can be written as:
I never went there. (not ever = never, did go = went) ... correct
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Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures of two-thirds of the states.

‘that’ refers to provision and its verb is ‘was never applied’.

Congress has been required
To call a convention for considering possible amendments to the document
When formally asked to do it

Present perfect ‘has been’ is used when a time of action is not defined or to show continuing action or effect. It is also used when words such as ‘since’ and ‘within’ are present in time context.
Usage of ‘has been’ is not correct here.

Other error is: call a convention ‘TO’ consider. The usage of ‘to’ here shows purpose or intention.

E is the correct answer.
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