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# Uninformed about students experience in urban classrooms,

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14 Oct 2014, 12:02
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rajeevrks27 wrote:
out of D and E, IMO D...
in E that is quantified is causing shift in meaning.

SUCH A CONFUSING ONE..BOTH D AND E LOOK CORRECT IN THEIR OWN WAYS...SUMONE PLEASE PROVIDE THE OA..

The OA is E.
As long as the meaning is unchanged, the phrase with fewer words is preferable.
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14 Oct 2014, 12:13
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I am confused. I think it is E but since the subject is singular should overlook not be overlooks

No, the subject is plural, because the subject is "critics".
Eliminating the middle man:
(Uninformed about students´experience in urban classrooms), critics often condemn schools performance as gauged by (an index), such as ...(Noun) and overlook (noun), such as that ....
Here is very clear that the ones making the action, the subjects, are the the critics, which are the ones that condemn and overlook the measurable progress.
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Updated on: 13 Mar 2015, 00:21
Hi

The following question's answer is still under doubt.

Please explain b/w D & E.

I think D because original question stem says "that can be quantified" and E say "that is quantified"..!!!!

Uninformed about students’ experience in urban classrooms, critics often condemn schools’ performance as gauged by an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that in higher-level reasoning.

A: an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that
B: an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
C: an index, such as standardized test scores, that is called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
D: a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
E: a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that is quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that
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13 Mar 2015, 00:23
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Hi

The following question's answer is still under doubt.

Please explain b/w D & E.

I think D because original question stem says "that can be quantified" and E say "that is quantified"..!!!!

Uninformed about students’ experience in urban classrooms, critics often condemn schools’ performance as gauged by an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that in higher-level reasoning.

A: an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that
B: an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
C: an index, such as standardized test scores, that is called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
D: a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
E: a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that is quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that

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13 Mar 2015, 07:57
Chose E. Very strange question:)
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30 Oct 2015, 05:15
Sorry to open this thread again, maybe some issue with my understanding of this problem:

As "index" is singular subject, how can we use plural verb -"overlook" with a singular subject? By that logic none of the answer is correct

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30 Oct 2015, 07:34
Sorry to open this thread again, maybe some issue with my understanding of this problem:

As "index" is singular subject, how can we use plural verb -"overlook" with a singular subject? By that logic none of the answer is correct

Actually if we look at the sentence in significant detail, the structure of this sentence is:

Critics condemn and overlook.

So, it is not "index" but "critics" who "overlook".
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29 Apr 2017, 00:58
Why cannot it be B. Isn't what is made parallel with score.
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29 Apr 2017, 01:36
Hi,

Need expert opinion on this. I think E is the correct answer here because it clearly conveys the idea. But E is still changing the meaning of the original sentence. Should we accept this as the answer despite the meaning is changed?

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Why cannot it be B. Isn't what is made parallel with score.

To answer your Question, B is incorrect because it tries to convey the meaning that test scores are called objective while as per the meaning of the sentence, it should be the index which is called an objective.

an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made

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29 Apr 2017, 01:53
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Need expert opinion on this. I think E is the correct answer here because it clearly conveys the idea. But E is still changing the meaning of the original sentence. Should we accept this as the answer despite the meaning is changed?

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Why cannot it be B. Isn't what is made parallel with score.

To answer your Question, B is incorrect because it tries to convey the meaning that test scores are called objective while as per the meaning of the sentence, it should be the index which is called an objective.

an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made

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It has not been mentioned in any official guideline that the correct answer must retain the meaning of the original sentence. If there is only one grammatically correct choice, it must be selected even when it deviates in meaning from the original.However if there are two grammatically correct sentences, select the one that agrees with the intended meaning of the original sentence.

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11 Jul 2018, 09:09
Hi daagh ,

Thank you for the explanations. I have one question. If "overlook" connects to the subject "index", it should be "overlooks". Where do I think wrong?

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‘Such as standardized test scores’ is only an example and hence can not decide the verb. It is the singular ‘index’ that is related by the pronoun ‘that’ and hence, the verb has to be the singular ‘is’ – Drop A and B

In C, ‘an index, such as standardized test scores, that is called objective and can be quantified’ is too verbose at least by a couple of words in comparison to ‘a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified” in D and E

In E, the expression ‘that is quantified’ alters the intent of the text which means ‘that can be quantified’

D glides past these pitfalls smoothly and survives. However, the phrase ‘such as what is made’ is indeed unnecessary and one can always prefer ‘such as that” as in E. However, E has the fatal flaw of using the unacceptable ‘that is quantified’

However,Do you know something, the original post from Kaplan, as given below is different from this simulated one here . The Kaplan example has “ can be quantified” for all the choices, unlike in this text, which alters Choice E with ‘that is quantified’ which is materially wrong.

Look at this

A. an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that
B. an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
C. an index, such as standardized test scores, that is called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
D. a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
E. a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that

In the Kaplan's case E is the OA and rightly so. But in the given one here, D IMO.
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The index is not the subject here. It is an object here. The actual subject is the plural 'critics" and hence 'overlook.'
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30 Jul 2018, 17:34
daagh wrote:
‘Such as standardized test scores’ is only an example and hence can not decide the verb. It is the singular ‘index’ that is related by the pronoun ‘that’ and hence, the verb has to be the singular ‘is’ – Drop A and B

In C, ‘an index, such as standardized test scores, that is called objective and can be quantified’ is too verbose at least by a couple of words in comparison to ‘a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified” in D and E

In E, the expression ‘that is quantified’ alters the intent of the text which means ‘that can be quantified’

D glides past these pitfalls smoothly and survives. However, the phrase ‘such as what is made’ is indeed unnecessary and one can always prefer ‘such as that” as in E. However, E has the fatal flaw of using the unacceptable ‘that is quantified’

However,Do you know something, the original post from Kaplan, as given below is different from this simulated one here . The Kaplan example has “ can be quantified” for all the choices, unlike in this text, which alters Choice E with ‘that is quantified’ which is materially wrong.

Look at this

A. an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that
B. an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
C. an index, such as standardized test scores, that is called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
D. a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
E. a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that

In the Kaplan's case E is the OA and rightly so. But in the given one here, D IMO.
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daagh wrote:
‘Such as standardized test scores’ is only an example and hence can not decide the verb. It is the singular ‘index’ that is related by the pronoun ‘that’ and hence, the verb has to be the singular ‘is’ – Drop A and B

In C, ‘an index, such as standardized test scores, that is called objective and can be quantified’ is too verbose at least by a couple of words in comparison to ‘a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified” in D and E

In E, the expression ‘that is quantified’ alters the intent of the text which means ‘that can be quantified’

D glides past these pitfalls smoothly and survives. However, the phrase ‘such as what is made’ is indeed unnecessary and one can always prefer ‘such as that” as in E. However, E has the fatal flaw of using the unacceptable ‘that is quantified’

However,Do you know something, the original post from Kaplan, as given below is different from this simulated one here . The Kaplan example has “ can be quantified” for all the choices, unlike in this text, which alters Choice E with ‘that is quantified’ which is materially wrong.

Look at this

A. an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that
B. an index, such as standardized test scores, that are called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
C. an index, such as standardized test scores, that is called objective and can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
D. a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as what is made
E. a so-called objective index, such as standardized test scores, that can be quantified and overlook less measurable progress, such as that

In the Kaplan's case E is the OA and rightly so. But in the given one here, D IMO.

There is a lot of confusion in this question. Though, I marked D, which seems to be incorrect but can someone help us with the OA and OE??
IMO, choice E changes the structure and as Daagh mentioned even though the phrase "such as what is made" is unnecessary, choice E is fatal.

Also, I have practiced all the 150 questions of easiest SC thread, but many 150 hard questions does not seem to have proper explanations. Should I continue with this thread or skip to official material? Please suggest.
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