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Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought.


A. Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought. –

B. Unlike conventional thinking, early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought.

C. Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought.

D. As per contemporary studies, and in contrast to conventional wisdom, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms in rock shelters where the early tribesman of Apache lived pre-dated the tribal’s stint at least 200 years earlier than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest took place in the sixteenth century. ---

E. Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, current wisdom spearheaded by Archeologist Seymour revealed that the tribals had reached the spot at least 200 years earlier, basing the proposal on the storage platforms built in where the early tribesman of Apache lived in rock shelters


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A. Improper modification; what should follow conventional thinking is some other kind of thinking and not the Architect.

B.This is an awful sentence. First, the modification is imporper as in A. Second, The meaning is changed without the relative pronoun ‘that’. Third, this is a blatant run-on sentence.

C. Modification problem as in A and B. Secondly the choice talks of some storage platforms, where the tribals lived. Nobody lives in storage platforms.

D. Concise and clear--- Correct choice.

E.Misplaced modifier; It is not clear what the modifier ‘basing the proposal on’ is trying to modify. It should modify thee archeologist. Here it seems to modify the tribals’ arrival time.
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amazing question. i fell for E. 'unlike conventional thinking' with 'current wisdom' got me in the trap so much so that I didn't even look at the rest of the sentence.

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Hey guys , I understand the issue with E but, isnt the contrast between conventional thinking and Archeologist Seymour incorrect in D? Please help

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Can someone please explain how D is the correct option?

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Can anybody advice , why D is the correct answer? Thanks

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pre-dated and earlier - somehow redundant if not separated by a comma. otherwise D looks better than the rest.

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practice realizing meaning/logic error because this is important. alway look for a meaning error because structural mechanical grammar error will jump at you
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Since Unlike compares noun phrase to noun phrase , Only option D and E remains

Since Question has Unlike in it,
(E) is having a modifier error.
It implies,The current wisdom , which is the subject of the second part, was basing the proposal on platform. That is not sounding good.

(D) remains and qualifies for the answer
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Hey guys , I understand the issue with E but, isnt the contrast between conventional thinking and Archeologist Seymour incorrect in D? Please help

I have the same question
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Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought.


A. Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought. –

[Reveal] Spoiler: OE for A
A. Improper modification; what should follow conventional thinking is some other kind of thinking and not the Architect.


B. Unlike conventional thinking, early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought.

[Reveal] Spoiler: OE for B
B.This is an awful sentence. First, the modification is imporper as in A. Second, The meaning is changed without the relative pronoun ‘that’. Third, this is a blatant run-on sentence.

C. Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought.

[Reveal] Spoiler: OE for C
C. Modification problem as in A and B. Secondly the choice talks of some storage platforms, where the tribals lived. Nobody lives in storage platforms.

D. As per contemporary studies, and in contrast to conventional wisdom, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms in rock shelters where the early tribesman of Apache lived pre-dated the tribal’s stint at least 200 years earlier than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest took place in the sixteenth century. ---

[Reveal] Spoiler: OE for D
D. Concise and clear--- Correct choice.



E. Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, current wisdom spearheaded by Archeologist Seymour revealed that the tribals had reached the spot at least 200 years earlier, basing the proposal on the storage platforms built in where the early tribesman of Apache lived in rock shelters


[Reveal] Spoiler: OE for E
E.Misplaced modifier; It is not clear what the modifier ‘basing the proposal on’ is trying to modify. It should modify thee archeologist. Here it seems to modify the tribals’ arrival time.

Hidaagh is past perfect tense (tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century) correct??
i think it is wrong as they reached after invasion so this means reaching was second event.
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I understood modifier error in E. But i rejected D because it says dated the tribal’s stint at least 200 years earlier than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest took place in the sixteenth century and intended meaning of the sentence says platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought an not that stint happened 200 years before Spanish invasion. Seems like this option changed the intended meaning.

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I understood modifier error in E. But i rejected D because it says dated the tribal’s stint at least 200 years earlier than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest took place in the sixteenth century and intended meaning of the sentence says platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought an not that stint happened 200 years before Spanish invasion. Seems like this option changed the intended meaning.

Can somebody please explain.

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Yes, there is a change in meaning. However please note that if there is only one grammatically correct sentence, one has to select that one, even though it may deviate in meaning from the original sentence. In no official guide is it stated that the original sentence conveys the intended meaning.

However if there are two grammatically correct sentences among the options, then one must select the one that matches with the meaning conveyed by the original sentence (if the original sentence conveys a logical meaning).

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Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought.


D. As per contemporary studies, and in contrast to conventional wisdom, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms in rock shelters where the early tribesman of Apache lived pre-dated the tribal’s stint at least 200 years earlier than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest took place in the sixteenth century.


Hi, I have two questions, first of all answers A. and C. are exactly the same word by word, is this okay?

Also, and more importantly I fell for answer E., which used the Unlike modifier in a correct way, I now know that in the second part of that answer the "basing the proposal" modifier is not clearly modifying the correct thing, but I rejected answer D. because I saw that the underlined part kind of made no grammatical sense.

Could someone please explain to me why "than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest took place in the sixteenth century" is correct? For me it is grammatically incorrect, shouldn't it be something more like "than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest which took place in the sixteenth century" or like "than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest in the sixteenth century"?

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Unlike conventional thinking that early tribes of Apache had reached the American Southwest after the Spanish invasion in the sixteenth Century, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought.


D. As per contemporary studies, and in contrast to conventional wisdom, Archeologist Seymour revealed that some storage platforms in rock shelters where the early tribesman of Apache lived pre-dated the tribal’s stint at least 200 years earlier than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest took place in the sixteenth century.


Hi, I have two questions, first of all answers A. and C. are exactly the same word by word, is this okay?

Also, and more importantly I fell for answer E., which used the Unlike modifier in a correct way, I now know that in the second part of that answer the "basing the proposal" modifier is not clearly modifying the correct thing, but I rejected answer D. because I saw that the underlined part kind of made no grammatical sense.

Could someone please explain to me why "than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest took place in the sixteenth century" is correct? For me it is grammatically incorrect, shouldn't it be something more like "than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest which took place in the sixteenth century" or like "than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest in the sixteenth century"?

Thank you very much for your help!


Your second question:-

Compare the following:

I came 20 minutes earlier than you came.
Platforms pre-dated 200 years earlier than the invasion took place.

Do you see now why D is structurally alright?

Nonetheless I see a slight redundancy issue in using "pre-dated" and "earlier" together.

Your first question:-
This seems to be typographical error and unintentional.

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sayantanc2k, thank you very much for your reply, I guess it just sounded weird being such a long sentence, I think now that I repeated it in my head over and over it makes a lot more sense.

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I understood modifier error in E. But i rejected D because it says dated the tribal’s stint at least 200 years earlier than the Spanish Invasion of the American Southwest took place in the sixteenth century and intended meaning of the sentence says platforms where the tribesman lived in rock shelters clearly pre-dated their stint at least 200 years earlier than originally thought an not that stint happened 200 years before Spanish invasion. Seems like this option changed the intended meaning.

Can somebody please explain.

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Yes, there is a change in meaning. However please note that if there is only one grammatically correct sentence, one has to select that one, even though it may deviate in meaning from the original sentence. In no official guide is it stated that the original sentence conveys the intended meaning.

However if there are two grammatically correct sentences among the options, then one must select the one that matches with the meaning conveyed by the original sentence (if the original sentence conveys a logical meaning).


Hi sayantanc2k,

Why is A wrong?
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how "as per contemporary studies" is correct?

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Hey guys , I understand the issue with E but, isnt the contrast between conventional thinking and Archeologist Seymour incorrect in D? Please help

Can any expert respond to this please?

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