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Re: Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier [#permalink]

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[ Excuse my obvious question. I want to make sure I understand which statements.

In the correct answer choice sentence, "Unlike the flights of the shuttle and earlier aircraft, which were capable of carrying..."

"Which" refers to "flights of the shuttle and earlier aircraft," or "shuttle and earlier aircraft," or "earlier aircraft?"

Basically, if a question asks, "Unlike x and y, which blah blah blah," can I understand that which refers to "x and y" rather than just "y? ]


Hi Experts I am re-posting the doubt asked by Banaorange. What is 'Which' referring to here? As it is a pronoun, it should refer to only one antecedent and that also with no ambiguity. Here it is not clear. How can 'Which' refer to both shuttle and earlier aircraft??

Please help. As a non native, I am very confused about such rules. Whether they are hard rules or are flexible?

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[ Excuse my obvious question. I want to make sure I understand which statements.

In the correct answer choice sentence, "Unlike the flights of the shuttle and earlier aircraft, which were capable of carrying..."

"Which" refers to "flights of the shuttle and earlier aircraft," or "shuttle and earlier aircraft," or "earlier aircraft?"

Basically, if a question asks, "Unlike x and y, which blah blah blah," can I understand that which refers to "x and y" rather than just "y? ]


Hi Experts I am re-posting the doubt asked by Banaorange. What is 'Which' referring to here? As it is a pronoun, it should refer to only one antecedent and that also with no ambiguity. Here it is not clear. How can 'Which' refer to both shuttle and earlier aircraft??

Please help. As a non native, I am very confused about such rules. Whether they are hard rules or are flexible?


With "shuttle and earlier aircraft" you are dealing with a compound noun. This compound noun is viewed as a single, plural grouping. It would take a plural verb and can be referred to as a grouping with "which".

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Hi Kyle,

Thanks for the reply.

I checked more on compound noun and how it is made by combining at least one noun and another noun or adjectives.

So does it holds true for any pronoun such as that, whom, when, who etc. They can refer to a compound noun in a sentence just like which does?

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D is my choice

B - sufficient and enough can't be together
A, C, E - out, due to comparisons
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Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.


Correct idiomatic usage of Unlike is -

Unlike X , Y ( Where X and Y are both Nouns.)

A. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries - Incorrect
B. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, with sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights - Incorrect
C. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which enabled them to carry sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries - Incorrect
D. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which were capable of carrying sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights - Correct

Unlike the shuttle and earlier spacecraft,which were capable of carrying sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.

E. the flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, whose shortness allowed them to carry sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries - Incorrect

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Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel
cells and batteries
, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.
A. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells
and batteries
B. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, with sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries for their
short flights
C. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which enabled them to carry sufficient
enough power in fuel cells and batteries
D. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which were capable of carrying sufficient power in fuel cells
and batteries for their short flights
E. the flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, whose shortness allowed them to carry sufficient
power in fuel cells and batteries

Can't decide between A and E .
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Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel
cells and batteries
, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.
A. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells
and batteries
B. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, with sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries for their
short flights
C. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which enabled them to carry sufficient
enough power in fuel cells and batteries
D. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which were capable of carrying sufficient power in fuel cells
and batteries for their short flights
E. the flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, whose shortness allowed them to carry sufficient
power in fuel cells and batteries

Can't decide between A and E .
Experts please help....


Are you sure OA is E?

I think D is the correct answer

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Hi Kyle,

Thanks for the reply.

I checked more on compound noun and how it is made by combining at least one noun and another noun or adjectives.

So does it holds true for any pronoun such as that, whom, when, who etc. They can refer to a compound noun in a sentence just like which does?


These relative pronouns can refer back to either a singular or plural antecedent and the antecedent could be a compound noun (plural). You need to be aware of number agreement with the personal/impersonal pronouns that show do indicate number: he, she, it, its, they, them, their.

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Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.

"short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft" which makes it plural, so i think using "whose" make it sound better than using which. Please clarify

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Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.

"short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft" which makes it plural, so i think using "whose" make it sound better than using which. Please clarify


"Which" is both the plural form and the singular form.
The pen, which you gave me, is lost.
The pens, which you gave me, are lost.

"Whose" is also both the plural form and the singular form, but in possessive. Note that "whose" is the possessive form of both "which" and "who".

The briefcase, whose handle is broken, is lost. (possessive of "which" - singular)
The briefcases, whose handles are broken, are lost. (possessive of "which" - plural)
The girl, whose father came yesterday, is sick. (possessive of "who" - singular)
The girls, whose fathers came yesterday, are sick. (possessive of "who" - plural)

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Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.

A. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries
B. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, with sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights
C. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which enabled them to carry sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries
D. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which were capable of carrying sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights
E. the flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, whose shortness allowed them to carry sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries


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In the question attached, I did not mark 'D' because of ',which rule'.

Option D. The shuttle and earlier spacecraft,which were capable of ....

here 'which' refers to 'spacecraft' [singular] and the verb used is 'were' [plural] . Hence the confusion. Please help.

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In the question attached, I did not mark 'D' because of ',which rule'.

Option D. The shuttle and earlier spacecraft,which were capable of ....

here 'which' refers to 'spacecraft' [singular] and the verb used is 'were' [plural] . Hence the confusion. Please help.



'Which' in the above example refers to both 'shuttle' and 'spacecraft', hence the verb is plural i.e. 'were' and also 'their' in the follow up of the same sentence.

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Ganganshu, D is the correct answer. E isn't correct because it compares the flights of the shuttle with a permanently orbiting space station. The orbiting station should be compared with the shuttle.
Anyway, the question in the SC Latest Collection by Souvik has the Unlike underlined too. I was almost certain the question was wrong.

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Here, we have an "Unlike, A ,B" comparison. Hence, A and B must be parallel.
A= Shuttle and earlier spacecraft
B= space station

"permanently, orbiting" is just the adverbial phrase to describe the space station.
The original statement is incorrect as it illogically compares the short flights of shuttles and earlier spacecraft to the spcae station. This is not a parallel comparison. We must compare shuttle and earlier spacecraft to space station. A, C and E are out. "With" used in B is not the right modifier as it slightly distorts the compariosn between the capabililties of the earlier spacecraft and the space station.
Which correctly modifies the closest noun, i.e. spacecraft. D is correct.

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