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Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Meaning: Some tax regulation required that condominium receive income
>x% from abc, and
<y% from xyz
Such incomes are to to be received in the same way as ground-floor rent is received for restaurants.)


A. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Usage of like seems correct here. Since if "such as" is used, then it would imply example of other sources. This is not the case here. ground-floor rent for restaurants is not example of other sources, rather a comparison in the way income should be received. Doubtful case is ", and no more than 20 percent")


B. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” requiring that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Tax regulation.... requiring that... " leaves no verb for "tax regulation", as receive is no longer the verb associated with tax. "Receive" is part of the modifier in this sentence)

C. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
("have" is incorrectly attached to subject "tax regulation". "comma+and+verb" without subject is not a correct usage. A subject is needed after "and". Please correct this reasoning, if not right.
Plus use of "such as" implies example of "other sources". This is not implied meaning)


D. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(same reasons as C)
E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and to have no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(",and to have" is awkward with subject "tax regulation")

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[quote="souvik101990"]Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

A. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
like cannot be used to represent examples.

B. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” requiring that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
"Requiring that" is not correct form to modify the prev clause.

C. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
Required has to be follow subjunctive. Hence "That" is missing[color=#0000ff]

D. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
Subjunctive form is correctly used in both cases - "receive and have" , "Such as" is correctly used representing examples. Hence this is the correct answer.

E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and to have no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
Required has to be follow subjunctive. Hence "That" is missing. Also "like" cannot be used to represent examples..
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Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

A. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

B. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” requiring that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.

C. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.

D. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.

E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and to have no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

Required X to Y >>> Condition, position, person, animal plant forces you to act in certain manner or to take certain action
Required that >>> Generally rules, regulations, laws, legislations enforce that certain steps need to be taken or that certain actions not to be taken
In this case, "that" must be used. Thus eliminate C & E.
Also, "like" is used for comparison and precedent only a noun or pronoun. "Such as" introduces examples. In this question, we understand that "ground floor rent" is given for comparison, so eliminate B & D.

Answer is A.

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Can anyone explain how like is correct. It seems confusing whether its example or comparison.

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Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Meaning: Some tax regulation required that condominium receive income
>x% from abc, and
<y% from xyz
Such incomes are to to be received in the same way as ground-floor rent is received for restaurants.)


A. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Usage of like seems correct here. Since if "such as" is used, then it would imply example of other sources. This is not the case here. ground-floor rent for restaurants is not example of other sources, rather a comparison in the way income should be received. Doubtful case is ", and no more than 20 percent")


B. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” requiring that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Tax regulation.... requiring that... " leaves no verb for "tax regulation", as receive is no longer the verb associated with tax. "Receive" is part of the modifier in this sentence)

C. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
("have" is incorrectly attached to subject "tax regulation". "comma+and+verb" without subject is not a correct usage. A subject is needed after "and". Please correct this reasoning, if not right.
Plus use of "such as" implies example of "other sources". This is not implied meaning)


D. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(same reasons as C)
E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and to have no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(",and to have" is awkward with subject "tax regulation")



Dont you think to associate the other and with the subject, you would have required "and THAT"

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Here , the key is to understand the meaning of the sentence. The original sentence says that condominium associations will get 80% from on and remaining 20% from the other ---. The phrase afterwards correctly uses like not such as. Such as introduces examples of 20%, which is not the case.

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Can one of the experts please help out in this question? it seems this is a veritas prep question, which has an answer solely derived from the 'wrong' idea we have about 'like' not being suitable for providing examples. MGMAT says that 'like' should not be used for examples and veritas says it can be. Someone please resolve this issue as it is a critical comparison module in GMAT.

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I still don't get why you can't have income and only receive income.

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Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Meaning: Some tax regulation required that condominium receive income
>x% from abc, and
<y% from xyz
Such incomes are to to be received in the same way as ground-floor rent is received for restaurants.)


A. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Usage of like seems correct here. Since if "such as" is used, then it would imply example of other sources. This is not the case here. ground-floor rent for restaurants is not example of other sources, rather a comparison in the way income should be received. Doubtful case is ", and no more than 20 percent")


B. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” requiring that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Tax regulation.... requiring that... " leaves no verb for "tax regulation", as receive is no longer the verb associated with tax. "Receive" is part of the modifier in this sentence)

C. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
("have" is incorrectly attached to subject "tax regulation". "comma+and+verb" without subject is not a correct usage. A subject is needed after "and". Please correct this reasoning, if not right.
Plus use of "such as" implies example of "other sources". This is not implied meaning)


D. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(same reasons as C)
E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and to have no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(",and to have" is awkward with subject "tax regulation")


How did you deduce that "ground-floor rent for restaurants" is a comparison? To me, it seemed like an example.

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please guys revise the source of this question. OA is A but many people disagree with like usage.
if it used for comparison, it should be : ' , income like ground-floor rent for restaurants.'
Gmat doesn't input ambiguous statements in SC question as It does in Math questions since Gmat verbal calls for simplicity and clarity of sentences not ambiguity.
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please guys revise the source of this question. OA is A but many people disagree with like usage.
if it used for comparison, it should be : ' , income like ground-floor rent for restaurants.'
Gmat doesn't input ambiguous statements in SC question as It does in Math questions since Gmat verbal calls for simplicity and clarity of sentences not ambiguity.
Any way, I doubt this question and am quite confused.
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It depends on whether the meaning intended is introducing example or comparing. Here introducing example is a better fit. Hence "such as" should have been used. Such a question is probably not expected in the real test.

(What is the problem with the source - is it not Veritas prep?)

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Meaning : The state tax regulation requires ("Subjunctive" as well as "to+verb" - usage correct with "Require") that CA's receive some income (80%) from x and no more (equal to) 20% from Y. This Y is being compared with ground floor rent for restaurants.

A - Looks fine

B - No verb (Requiring is not a verb). Such as used as examples for sources of income for CA - Wrong

C - Wrong usage of Such as

D - Wrong usage of Such as

E - to+verb = shows some kind of motive. The motive is of the "Regulation" that requires CAs to receive funds ina certain manner.

A - more concise and clear.



For the highlighted part: I feel that comparison is between X and other sources & not ground floor rent. "ground-floor rent for restaurants" is an example of such a source. Introducing example require such as.

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please guys revise the source of this question. OA is A but many people disagree with like usage.
if it used for comparison, it should be : ' , income like ground-floor rent for restaurants.'
Gmat doesn't input ambiguous statements in SC question as It does in Math questions since Gmat verbal calls for simplicity and clarity of sentences not ambiguity.
Any way, I doubt this question and am quite confused.
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It depends on whether the meaning intended is introducing example or comparing. Here introducing example is a better fit. Hence "such as" should have been used. Such a question is probably not expected in the real test.

(What is the problem with the source - is it not Veritas prep?)


even if it is Veritas prep, it wouldn't appear in the real test.
such question is not out of scope.

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I don't buy "like" as introducing a comparison here. Remember that "like" only compares stated nouns, so it would have to be comparing ground-floor rent to "other sources." We can't compare them to the method of collection, since that noun doesn't appear. (In any case, those wouldn't really be parallel.)

So we're left using "like" to introduce an example. While "such as" is preferred, the GMAT has used "like" on occasion. We can't always get consistency on these issues! Perhaps the GMAT is bowing to popular usage on this one, since the use of "like" to introduce examples is routine in spoken English.
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Can someone explain the option A to me? How LIKE is appropriate here? A lot of the comments above mine cited the use of LIKE as a way of comparison. I don't get the structure. And can someone clarify the GMAC's standing on the LIKE vs SUCH AS issue?

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IMO : its D
Corrects parallelism(required to recieve .. and have.. i don't think its proper so eliminated C ) and such as - used for examples .

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Hello,

Can someone please explain why the answer choice is "A"? I chose "E" based on the parrallelism of the "to" in the answer choice.

E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations "to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders", and "to have no more than 20 percent from other sources", like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

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