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# Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the 80-20 rule

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20 Jan 2017, 18:32
Hello,

Can someone please explain why the answer choice is "A"? I chose "E" based on the parrallelism of the "to" in the answer choice.

E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations "to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders", and "to have no more than 20 percent from other sources", like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

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21 Jan 2017, 13:34
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Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Meaning: Some tax regulation required that condominium receive income
>x% from abc, and
Such incomes are to to be received in the same way as ground-floor rent is received for restaurants.)

A. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Usage of like seems correct here. Since if "such as" is used, then it would imply example of other sources. This is not the case here. ground-floor rent for restaurants is not example of other sources, rather a comparison in the way income should be received. Doubtful case is ", and no more than 20 percent")

B. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” requiring that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Tax regulation.... requiring that... " leaves no verb for "tax regulation", as receive is no longer the verb associated with tax. "Receive" is part of the modifier in this sentence)

C. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
("have" is incorrectly attached to subject "tax regulation". "comma+and+verb" without subject is not a correct usage. A subject is needed after "and". Please correct this reasoning, if not right.
Plus use of "such as" implies example of "other sources". This is not implied meaning)

D. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(same reasons as C)
E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and to have no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(",and to have" is awkward with subject "tax regulation")

Such as can be used for single example also.A is right because of the correct comparison.

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21 Jan 2017, 13:40
Keepushinalmosthere wrote:
Hello,

Can someone please explain why the answer choice is "A"? I chose "E" based on the parrallelism of the "to" in the answer choice.

E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations "to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders", and "to have no more than 20 percent from other sources", like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

Option A is bssically in subjunctive mode and correctly states the fact.So the use of infinitive in E is wrong here.

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22 Jan 2017, 13:44
The explanations above haven't resolved the issue. All the fancy phrase they keep dropping, 'subjunctive' 'mood' blah blah blah.
Luckily I have come upon the explanation myself.

A is the best choice because the 2nd part of the 2 part phrase, "no more than 20 percent from other sources" isn't really being fully compared to the first part of the phrase, "that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders".

Its more of an 'add-on'. An analogy would be that the second part of the phrase is an order of fries along with the hamburger. The hamburger can't be compared to the fries, and they aren't equally weighted in their own regards, so they aren't being compared to each other. It is more so of an explanation or an addition to the main point "that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders".

Dunno if this helps at all, in my head it is now crystal clear.

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23 Jan 2017, 06:30
Please explain the usage of like in the OA.

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24 Jan 2017, 10:33
bpiyush wrote:
Please explain the usage of like in the OA.

You seem to have missed this post:
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13 Mar 2017, 08:31
Hi sayantanc2k,

Can you please confirm what should be the answer for this question? I my opinion answer should be D and not A atleast.

Also, I donot find any error with C also. I believe both 'require that' and 'require to' are correct.

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24 Apr 2017, 22:53
"Comma + and" is used for joining two IC. Hence option A is incorrect

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20 Aug 2017, 16:32
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A) Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

HumptyDumpty wrote:
The comma before ", and" is also correctly placed, as a comma between two long parallel clauses should be (also before the coordinating conjunction and!).
A is the best answer choice, though hellishly convoluted. Perhaps we all fell victims to the inflexible way of thinking, putting an obtuse grammar rule way above... thinking .

Could someone go into more detail explaining this comma? Thanks!!

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22 Aug 2017, 17:45
Still very confused about comma use in this OA. Help would be awesome.

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05 Nov 2017, 23:19
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Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Meaning: Some tax regulation required that condominium receive income
>x% from abc, and
<y% from xyz
Such incomes are to to be received in the same way as ground-floor rent is received for restaurants.)

A. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Usage of like seems correct here. Since if "such as" is used, then it would imply example of other sources. This is not the case here. ground-floor rent for restaurants is not example of other sources, rather a comparison in the way income should be received. Doubtful case is ", and no more than 20 percent")

B. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” requiring that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(Tax regulation.... requiring that... " leaves no verb for "tax regulation", as receive is no longer the verb associated with tax. "Receive" is part of the modifier in this sentence)

C. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
("have" is incorrectly attached to subject "tax regulation". "comma+and+verb" without subject is not a correct usage. A subject is needed after "and". Please correct this reasoning, if not right.
Plus use of "such as" implies example of "other sources". This is not implied meaning)

D. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(same reasons as C)
E. Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and to have no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.
(",and to have" is awkward with subject "tax regulation")

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06 Nov 2017, 22:34
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Can one of the experts please help out in this question? it seems this is a veritas prep question, which has an answer solely derived from the 'wrong' idea we have about 'like' not being suitable for providing examples. MGMAT says that 'like' should not be used for examples and veritas says it can be. Someone please resolve this issue as it is a critical comparison module in GMAT.

Would appreciate a quick response.

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I believe GMAC is bowing down to the way English is spoken. We use 'Like' in everyday english to introduce examples.

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12 Nov 2017, 18:07
what is the issue in this question? How A, not D, is the correct answer?

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12 Nov 2017, 18:08
I think D violates the parallel structure as D should have "that..." + "that..."
"like" is correct in this sentence. I cannot believe it.

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13 Nov 2017, 08:18
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what is the issue in this question? How A, not D, is the correct answer?

I agree - D is better than A (GMAT prefers "such as" to "like" to introduce examples). Nonetheless the comma before "and" should not be there in either of the options.

The OA has been changed to D.

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sayantanc2k wrote:
chesstitans wrote:
what is the issue in this question? How A, not D, is the correct answer?

I agree - D is better than A (GMAT prefers "such as" to "like" to introduce examples). Nonetheless the comma before "and" should not be there in either of the options.

The OA has been changed to D.

thank you, I now know the correct answer so that I will have a better preparation for my upcoming actual test.

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29 Nov 2017, 14:03
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what is the different meaning between "required + to infi" and "required that + bare infinitive"?

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Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

A) Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

B) Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” requiring that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.

C) Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.

D) Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required that condominium associations receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders and have no more than 20 percent from other sources, such as ground-floor rent for restaurants.

E) Until 2010, a state tax regulation known as the “80-20 rule” required condominium associations to receive at least 80 percent of their gross income from their tenant-shareholders, and to have no more than 20 percent from other sources, like ground-floor rent for restaurants.

C is wrong because i think the comma used before 'and have' is not required.

But also, do tell me how d is right even though that is used with subjunctive verb?

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04 Dec 2017, 06:14
sayantanc2k wrote:
chesstitans wrote:
what is the issue in this question? How A, not D, is the correct answer?

I agree - D is better than A (GMAT prefers "such as" to "like" to introduce examples). Nonetheless the comma before "and" should not be there in either of the options.

The OA has been changed to D.

Please let me know why is C wrong. I've read the discussions but am still perplexed.
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