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Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be approximately $300 annually to the average worker.

A) Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker.

B) Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the assumption that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker.

C) Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.

D) Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the fact that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.

E) Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   08 Jun 2013, 12:08
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I chose option E.

We could eliminate C & D because of its use of "Assuming the ____ as __ " which is incorrect.

Between A, B & E - Only E correctly uses the form "the analyst estimated that the" instead of "the analyst estimated ...."

Does this help explain it?
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   01 Apr 2017, 22:44
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emmak wrote:

TOUGH AND DIFFICULT


Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be approximately $300 annually to the average worker.

(A) Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker.

(B) Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the assumption that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker.

(C) Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.

(D) Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the fact that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.

(E) Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.


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Solution: E

Explanation: This difficult and complex sentence problem contains many decision points. (C) is the easiest to eliminate because you cannot say “assuming this is true and…that this is true” – it is not parallel. (D) is also wrong because these two things need to be separated logically – he is using one thing and assuming another thing. Making it all one assumption is illogical and it is unclear where the two thoughts separate. In (A) and (B), “estimated that the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker” is illogical – it seems that the estimate is about the worth of the search engine (its valuation as a company) not what it is worth to the average work in how he/she uses it. Only (E) frames the two modifiers correctly (Using x and assuming y) and then clarifies that the estimate is about how much it is worth to the average worker for his/her annual use.
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   08 Jun 2013, 23:21
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vishnuns39620 wrote:
I chose option E.

We could eliminate C & D because of its use of "Assuming the ____ as __ " which is incorrect.

Between A, B & E - Only E correctly uses the form "the analyst estimated that the" instead of "the analyst estimated ...."

Does this help explain it?


Hi vishnuns,

can you please elaborate more why you think that "Assuming the ____ as __ " and "the analyst estimated ...." are wrong?

About the second construct in particular, I think that is perfectly legit:
the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth
Why do you think that this kind of strucuture is wrong?

Whenever you see verbs like: "say/tell/suggest/announce/estimate/..." most of the times "that" is required, but do not take this as a Rule of Thumb.
Example:
The computer company has announced that it will purchase (...). In this sentence that is required and refers to the entire clause.

But when you have other types of counstruct as "analysts estimated the worth", "that" is not required.
"The worth" is the actual thing that he estimated, so the phrase without "that" is correct.

I hope that what I mean is clear
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   12 Dec 2017, 04:08
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Hi VeritasPrepKarishma,

I have one question for choices A,B and E. To me, "using the average wage..", the analyst estimated => sounded like, analyst spent that money to estimate. May be i am wrong. i felt, instead of "using", some other modifier, like "considering", "observing", "evaluating"..etc, would have been apt.

Please help.

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The correct option (E) says: "Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time"
i.e. Using A as B
So the meaning is clear - A is used as B. Hence, we cannot say that it seems that the analyst estimated using this money.

Does this help?
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   07 Oct 2013, 09:44
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Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be approximately $300 annually to the average worker.
A)Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker.
B)Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the assumption that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker.
C)Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.
D)Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the fact that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.
E)Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.


Wow! This one was tough took me almost 2 min! Chose (E). In future posts it would definetely be advisable to leave some space between answer choices, otherwise I get the impression it is harder than it really is.

Now back to the question, parallelism in E is correct - Using // assuming. Looking good.
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   07 Oct 2013, 12:27
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I selected E over A because "might be approximately" is redundant.
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   07 Jan 2014, 06:22
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You estimate THAT ==> A and B are out!

C and D are wordy ==> left with E!

Hope it helps
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   08 Jan 2014, 01:45
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Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be approximately $300 annually to the average worker.
A)Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker.
B)Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the assumption that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker.
C)Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.
D)Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the fact that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.
E)Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.



I think A would have been correct, had it been the analyst estimated that the.
So, E is correct in this case.

What do you think, fellas?
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   05 Aug 2018, 17:17
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E) Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.

There appears to be a comma error in this option which threw me off completely. The comma after workers' time is wrong since there are only two parallel elements in the list. Does this seem incorrect to anyone else?
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   14 Dec 2021, 22:02
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Hi VeritasKarishma

why are C & D wrong?

Isn't the parallelism correct In D?
Assuming the average wage (noun) of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and (assuming -though we omit it) the fact (noun) that people who could ask more questions
and ı guess analyst can assume both to make the calculations?


Here is what the sentence is telling us:
(E) Using A as B and assuming C, the analyst estimated ...
This is correct.

Now look at (D)
(D) Assuming A as B and the fact C, the analyst estimated ...

If we say that these two are parallel:
- assuming A as B
- the fact C
then it is not correct. Both parallel elements should work with the rest of the sentence. But "the fact C, the analyst estimated ..." doesn't make sense.

If we say that these two are parallel:
Assuming
- A as B
- the fact C
then again it is not correct. We cannot assume a fact. A fact is a fact. We need to assume something we don't know. But a fact is something we know to be true.


(C) Assuming A as B and C, the analyst estimated ...
Average wage is $200/day. He used this as the value of worker's time. This wage wasn't assumed. It is the average wage. It was used as the value of worker's time.
Hence (E) is much better.
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   08 Jun 2013, 11:57
B,C,D are out because of //ism

B:- using(simple gerund)not // to assumption(noun)
C:-that clause //ism issue
D:-that clause //ism issue


but dont know how to eliminate A...is it because of poosesive case(search engine’s )..
pls help..
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   16 Oct 2013, 18:27
emmak wrote:
Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be approximately $300 annually to the average worker.
A)Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker. <<Estimated That ---That missing >>
B)Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the assumption that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth might be $300 annually to the average worker.<<Estimated That ---That missing >>
C)Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker. <<Meaning change.It should be using the average wage>>
D)Assuming the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time and the fact that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker. <<Meaning change.It should be using the average wage and the usage of fact.which is redundant >>
E)Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time, and assuming that people who could ask more questions online would, the analyst estimated that the search engine might be worth $300 annually to the average worker.
<<Correct..Correct usage of assuming that >>
Please correct me If I am wrong.The usage of fact is not correct?Can any one tell me is it always incorrect to use fact as a key word in SC.
@veritas :Can you please reply.
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   08 Jan 2014, 00:56
B,C and D are incorrect because they lack parallelism.
Out of A and E, E uses "estimated that", whereas A doesn't.

So, the correct answer is E.
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   14 Jan 2014, 07:08
Zarrolou wrote:
vishnuns39620 wrote:
I chose option E.

We could eliminate C & D because of its use of "Assuming the ____ as __ " which is incorrect.

Between A, B & E - Only E correctly uses the form "the analyst estimated that the" instead of "the analyst estimated ...."

Does this help explain it?


Hi vishnuns,

can you please elaborate more why you think that "Assuming the ____ as __ " and "the analyst estimated ...." are wrong?

About the second construct in particular, I think that is perfectly legit:
the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth
Why do you think that this kind of strucuture is wrong?

Whenever you see verbs like: "say/tell/suggest/announce/estimate/..." most of the times "that" is required, but do not take this as a Rule of Thumb.
Example:
The computer company has announced that it will purchase (...). In this sentence that is required and refers to the entire clause.

But when you have other types of counstruct as "analysts estimated the worth", "that" is not required.
"The worth" is the actual thing that he estimated, so the phrase without "that" is correct.

I hope that what I mean is clear



Hi Zarrolou,

If option A is not wrong for this reason, then what's wrong with this option? I think the difference between A and E has more to do with this sentence fragment: "$200 as a value of worker's time". Please help.
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   03 Sep 2015, 18:33
if the second part of ellipsis contains helping verb, the first part must contain the same helping verb, possibly in different tense. if the case is not like this, we write down full verb phrase in the second part.

I think in E , "would " should be " would ask"
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   11 Dec 2017, 06:48
Hi VeritasPrepKarishma,

I have one question for choices A,B and E. To me, "using the average wage..", the analyst estimated => sounded like, analyst spent that money to estimate. May be i am wrong. i felt, instead of "using", some other modifier, like "considering", "observing", "evaluating"..etc, would have been apt.

Please help.

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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   12 Dec 2017, 10:37
VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:
hellosanthosh2k2 wrote:
Hi VeritasPrepKarishma,

I have one question for choices A,B and E. To me, "using the average wage..", the analyst estimated => sounded like, analyst spent that money to estimate. May be i am wrong. i felt, instead of "using", some other modifier, like "considering", "observing", "evaluating"..etc, would have been apt.

Please help.

Thanks


The correct option (E) says: "Using the average wage of $200 a day as a value of workers’ time"
i.e. Using A as B
So the meaning is clear - A is used as B. Hence, we cannot say that it seems that the analyst estimated using this money.

Does this help?


Thanks VeritasPrepKarishma for explanation, it helps
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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   12 Dec 2017, 13:34
Zarrolou wrote:
vishnuns39620 wrote:
I chose option E.

We could eliminate C & D because of its use of "Assuming the ____ as __ " which is incorrect.

Between A, B & E - Only E correctly uses the form "the analyst estimated that the" instead of "the analyst estimated ...."

Does this help explain it?


Hi vishnuns,

can you please elaborate more why you think that "Assuming the ____ as __ " and "the analyst estimated ...." are wrong?

About the second construct in particular, I think that is perfectly legit:
the analyst estimated the search engine’s worth
Why do you think that this kind of strucuture is wrong?

Whenever you see verbs like: "say/tell/suggest/announce/estimate/..." most of the times "that" is required, but do not take this as a Rule of Thumb.
Example:
The computer company has announced that it will purchase (...). In this sentence that is required and refers to the entire clause.

But when you have other types of counstruct as "analysts estimated the worth", "that" is not required.
"The worth" is the actual thing that he estimated, so the phrase without "that" is correct.

I hope that what I mean is clear

For A and E, think on following lines..

My company gives me ₹300 per day to value my time.
My company gives me ₹300 per day as a value of my time.

Did you notice the difference between the two sentences. 1st one sounds like company is giving a reward or something(to value). 2nd one is as if it's company policy or something(as value).

Now go with the meaning of the sentence and see which one suits best A or E.

On the confusion on estimated something and estimated that something...

I estimated my banglow might be ₹3cr
I estimated that my banglow might be worth ₹3cr
Which one is correct? Second sentence. Isn't?
With this logic also I think we can conclude that we need "that".

Hope I am helping and not confusing.

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Re: Using the average wage of $200 a day to value workers time, [#permalink] New post   30 Jul 2018, 07:41
daagh sir

I am still not very clear why options A,B and D are incorrect. Can you please help?
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