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I think this the explanation isn't clear enough, please elaborate. i think A must be the correct answer choice since it starts with a phrase a current climb
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I think this the explanation isn't clear enough, please elaborate. i think A must be the correct answer choice since it starts with a phrase a current climb


There has been a lot of discussion over this issue and I was not able to convince at least one user that D, not A, is the correct option. Please take a look at the chain of discussion just before your post.
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New post 10 Dec 2016, 18:12
To be honest, i believe that the first part of the sentence is nothing but a general truth. It is okay for the first part to be in simple tense, however, that does not mean that the second sentence should be made parallel to it. To your argument about usage of current, can you please help me understand what is wrong with the below -

"Demonetization always helps in weeding out black money from a country; In India, the current act of demonetization has forced people of the country queue up outside ATMs for long hours" - Demonetization has already happened but its effects can be felt still.

I think this is a force fit question and am not happy with the explanation provided
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To be honest, i believe that the first part of the sentence is nothing but a general truth. It is okay for the first part to be in simple tense, however, that does not mean that the second sentence should be made parallel to it. To your argument about usage of current, can you please help me understand what is wrong with the below -

"Demonetization always helps in weeding out black money from a country; In India, the current act of demonetization has forced people of the country queue up outside ATMs for long hours" - Demonetization has already happened but its effects can be felt still.

I think this is a force fit question and am not happy with the explanation provided


My reasoning remains the same. The act that has already forced people to queue up cannot be current. The act had occurred in the past as a result of which people queued up. The current act may be forcing people now or may force people in future. It is not logical to use the word "current" for an act whose effect occurred in the past since effect comes after the cause.
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If i've understood correctly, i think there is a reason for option A vying for the right answer and here is my reasoning (please correct me if i'm wrong).

The First clause mentions a fact. "In most industries the rising cost of support services actually passes a greater financial burden to customers".

And ideally with an example following, shouldn't the example prove this fact or be representative/indicative of this fact?

As in, if a current climb in the cost of court reporting has forced many attorneys to raise their hourly rates, then it means the author is proving that the first clause is a fact.

Doesn't this warrant the use of a present perfect tense?
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If i've understood correctly, i think there is a reason for option A vying for the right answer and here is my reasoning (please correct me if i'm wrong).

The First clause mentions a fact. "In most industries the rising cost of support services actually passes a greater financial burden to customers".

And ideally with an example following, shouldn't the example prove this fact or be representative/indicative of this fact?

As in, if a current climb in the cost of court reporting has forced many attorneys to raise their hourly rates, then it means the author is proving that the first clause is a fact.

Doesn't this warrant the use of a present perfect tense?


The example to prove the fact may be from any time, past or present - it could even be a general rule. However, why option A is problematic has already been discussed on this thread: a "current" event causing something in the past is not logical.
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I have a couple of queries regarding the question itself.

"In most industries the rising cost of support services actually passes a greater financial burden to customers; in the legal profession, for example, a current climb in the cost of court reporting has forced many attorneys to raise their hourly rates."

Theory -> In most industries the rising cost of support services actually passes a greater financial burden to customers ---- this implies that an event happens (rising cost of support services) which results in increased financial burden passed to the customers.

Example -> in the legal profession, for example, a current climb in the cost of court reporting has forced many attorneys to raise their hourly rates." --- here the event is (current climb) which forces many attorneys to raise their hourly rates.
Shouldn't the example be as follows
in the legal profession, for example, a current climb in the cost of court reporting could/would force many attorneys to raise their hourly rates.


To me the following flow of reasoning makes more sense.
current climb could force attorneys, since this leaves room for some attorneys to not raise their rates.

If we choose option D "forces many attorneys to raise their hourly rates" - then it does seem to imply that is more like a universal rule, and must happen every time.

If we choose option A "has forced many attorneys to raise their hourly rates." does restrict the cause and effect to this particular climb in the cost of reporting.
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In most industries the rising cost of support services actually passesa greater financial burden to customers; in the legal profession, for example, a current climb in the cost of court reporting has forced many attorneys to raise their hourly rates.

I think "has forced" is wrong is because it breaks parallelism with the first part of the sentence "...cost of support services actually passes a greater....".

Am I right?
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Though most people have commented on this, I also don't understand how "current climb" can use the verb "forces". Forces implies that the phenomenon happens all the time. It does not agree with the meaning of the sentence. This is a one time event. How can it always be true?

The statement below makes sense:

"In most industries the rising cost of support services actually passes a greater financial burden to customers"
This is something that can always be true as a stated fact.

But using "a current climb" in the second sentence forces the situation to be time limited. It is a one time event and so the verb should adhere to that.

If the sentence instead had said "climb" only then that would make sense as that can be true at all times.
"climb in the costs forces the attorney to raise their rates" would make more sense.
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I found an example in the MGMAT SC book that uses similar structure, as you can see it uses "has led" correctly.

Right: The recent decrease in crime in our neighborhood has led to a rise in property values.
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I think this is a poor-quality question. If option D read "Is forcing..." it would be correct. While "Forces" technically matches the present tense, the reader understands "a current climb" to mean recent past and present, and not simply the present. Option A, "has forced many attorneys to raise their hourly rates" is correct. Similar construction: "The current climb in unemployment has forced the FEDs to lower interestest rates" is correct while "The current climb in unemployment forces the FEDs to lower interestest rates" is incorrect. They already raised the rates. Some lawyers already raised their hourly rates.
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This is a very interesting discussion. Great examples given by everyone which opens the mind on many aspects of grammar and sentence formation. Here are my 2 cents:

With all due respect, I also tend to disagree with the OA.
1. Simple Past 'forces' indicates generalization. However, use of the word 'current' indicates a specific event. So 'current' and 'forces' cannot go together in the manner they have been used here. So option D is incorrect. 'is forcing' rather than 'forces' would be a better choice though.
2. The reasoning given by sayantanc2k is a great refresher, that I would like to keep in mind while practicing other questions, but to me it seems the reasoning may not be applicable in this particular case. The culprit is the word 'current' and its interpretation. Sometimes, we need to look at the indicative meaning of a word rather the literal meaning of a word. In the way 'a current' is used in this example, would it be fair to replace it with 'a recent' or 'the recent'? If yes, then we can see that the climb occurred sometimes in the 'recent' past, and its effects continue to stay. So Present Perfect would work great!! The use of the word 'current' doesn't mean the climb happened today, or just now! According to me 'current climb' means the 'most recent climb'. To me, all the examples given by others members e.g. current strike, current act of demonetization, current increase etc. are making perfect sense with Present Perfect.

3. On a totally different note: I do not see any difference between option A and option B. If A is correct, then B is also correct. Of course I would still choose A rather than B because A is part of the question statement as is, but I didn't find anything wrong in B.
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I understand this is old post / question. But if allowed I want to share my view that in option A , can't we treat "has forced" as passive voice as something else is forcing the action. So though I agree Present Tense is required, "Has forced" is more of passive voice of present action.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation. I would reclassify this question as a 'Tense form' question. Good explanation
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Between A and D. A is incorrect because the subject is 'current climb' and not 'climb'. We need forces and not forced. Present form and not past form.
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New post 27 Aug 2018, 18:21
I think this is a poor-quality question and I don't agree with the explanation. Answer key is wrong - Ideal answer should be a rather than d.
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