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# Waiving Rights to See Reco's

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01 Oct 2007, 11:55
What is everyone doing when asked if they waive the right to see the recommendations? Are you waiving your right, or not? Does it matter to the school whether or not you do? If you don't waive your right does that mean they think you're worried about what the recommender will write?

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01 Oct 2007, 11:58
emoryhopeful wrote:
What is everyone doing when asked if they waive the right to see the recommendations? Are you waiving your right, or not? Does it matter to the school whether or not you do? If you don't waive your right does that mean they think you're worried about what the recommender will write?

I waived my right.

Last year, someone mentioned putting in a 'dummy' school. You can open that recommendation and see what they actually wrote.

Ethical? Probably not.

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01 Oct 2007, 12:00
I didn't waive my rights.

There was a discussion here if you search for it. The theory is that the recommender will put a more honest response if they know the applicant won't be able to read it. At least that's what the adcomm thinks.

I don't really think it makes a difference. I think this issue is more between the recommender and the applicant.

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01 Oct 2007, 12:00
kidderek wrote:
emoryhopeful wrote:
What is everyone doing when asked if they waive the right to see the recommendations? Are you waiving your right, or not? Does it matter to the school whether or not you do? If you don't waive your right does that mean they think you're worried about what the recommender will write?

I waived my right.

Last year, someone mentioned putting in a 'dummy' school. You can open that recommendation and see what they actually wrote.

Ethical? Probably not.

I think you only have access if you get accepted.

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01 Oct 2007, 12:05
gmatclb wrote:
I didn't waive my rights.

There was a discussion here if you search for it. The theory is that the recommender will put a more honest response if they know the applicant won't be able to read it. At least that's what the adcomm thinks.

I don't really think it makes a difference. I think this issue is more between the recommender and the applicant.

I think if you don't waive your rights, it sets an initial tone of mistrust. But then again, maybe if you don't waive your right, they will take more care to write a good recommendation.

In the end, it's probably a wash.

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01 Oct 2007, 12:12
Doesnt matter - considering that a majority of recommenders specificaly ask for your feedback and help in writing recommendations (kryzak and his 44 page monstrosity), most folks know whats in their reco.

I knew that in grad school, waiving your rights for a reco letter shows that you trusted the recommender in the first place and he/she knew about you in detail....so the school looks upon it as a positive thing if you waive ur right.

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01 Oct 2007, 12:16
I love this forum. Thanks a lot for such quick feedback. I think I'm going to waive my right, as I already have pretty close communication with my recommenders and will have a pretty solid idea of where they're going with their thoughts.

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01 Oct 2007, 14:45
gmatclb wrote:
I think you only have access if you get accepted.

No you don't. At least not at HBS.

L.

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01 Oct 2007, 15:25
Honestly I don't want to know what they are like in the end. It would piss me off way more if they werent very good and I didn't get in than getting dinged and thinking it was my fault. If I get in I wont care what they say since I will be in.

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01 Oct 2007, 15:28
lepium wrote:
gmatclb wrote:
I think you only have access if you get accepted.

No you don't. At least not at HBS.

L.

Well at least UCLA and UC berkeley don't let you see it if you get dinged.

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01 Oct 2007, 16:21
gmatclb wrote:
lepium wrote:
gmatclb wrote:
I think you only have access if you get accepted.

No you don't. At least not at HBS.

L.

Well at least UCLA and UC berkeley don't let you see it if you get dinged.

Similarly, the GSB won't let you see them either way I don't think.

Also, 4000th post

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01 Oct 2007, 16:29
rhyme wrote:
gmatclb wrote:
lepium wrote:
gmatclb wrote:
I think you only have access if you get accepted.

No you don't. At least not at HBS.

L.

Well at least UCLA and UC berkeley don't let you see it if you get dinged.

Similarly, the GSB won't let you see them either way I don't think.

Also, 4000th post

admit it. you just wrote this post to hit 4000.

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01 Oct 2007, 16:29
rhyme wrote:
Also, 4000th post

Well deserved rhyme. Glad to see a lot of you guys from 06 coming back to help others this year.

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01 Oct 2007, 16:30
aviroop wrote:
rhyme wrote:
gmatclb wrote:
lepium wrote:
gmatclb wrote:
I think you only have access if you get accepted.

No you don't. At least not at HBS.

L.

Well at least UCLA and UC berkeley don't let you see it if you get dinged.

Similarly, the GSB won't let you see them either way I don't think.

Also, 4000th post

admit it. you just wrote this post to hit 4000.

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01 Oct 2007, 16:49
hahaha. congrats dude

keep up the awesome do-goodery.

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01 Oct 2007, 19:43
aviroop wrote:
Doesnt matter - considering that a majority of recommenders specificaly ask for your feedback and help in writing recommendations (kryzak and his 44 page monstrosity), most folks know whats in their reco.

Thank you, digital pimp

I waived my rights because my recos all said they would show me and let me help them edit the essays. I personally think waiving your rights is the better step to take, otherwise why would they even ask the question?

Congrats rhyme! I got a long ways to go to catch up!

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02 Oct 2007, 06:36
4000 is pretty insane. I'm just trying to make it to 100. One step at a time grasshopper.

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