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What is the difference between Independent of and independent from?

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28 Jul 2007, 08:08
Both idioms are correct and usage depends on the meaning of the sentence.
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28 Jul 2007, 09:55
Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution rather than developing independently from a common ancestor of mammals more than 220 million years ago.

(A) rather than developing independently from
(B) rather than a type that developed independently from
(C) rather than a type whose development was independent of
(D) instead of developing independently from
(E) instead of a development that was independent of
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28 Jul 2007, 17:46
hmmm

this is not really a case of independent of vs independent from.

look at the context of B.

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Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are
a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution
rather than
a type that developed independently from a common ancestor of mammals more than 220 million years ago.
=======
DE are out because
instead of = substitute
rather than = alternative preference (not alternate!)

we chose B because it was parallel, not because it was the correct idiom.

independentLY is an adverb.

thoughts?
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28 Jul 2007, 21:23
bmwhype2 wrote:
hmmm

this is not really a case of independent of vs independent from.

look at the context of B.

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Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are
a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution
rather than
a type that developed independently from a common ancestor of mammals more than 220 million years ago.
=======
DE are out because
instead of = substitute
rather than = alternative preference (not alternate!)

we chose B because it was parallel, not because it was the correct idiom.

independentLY is an adverb.

thoughts?

Yes I know, you choose B because of parallelism.
But in the OG, it is mentioned in the answer explanation

"... The second half of the contrast may be rewritten a type that developed independently from to complete the parellel construction. The idiom independently from is different in meaning from the idiom independent of; the logic of this sentence requires the use of independently from."

That's item #56 from the OG Verbal workbook.
Now that's what I would like to know.
The difference of usage
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gablaze23 wrote:
bmwhype2 wrote:
hmmm

this is not really a case of independent of vs independent from.

look at the context of B.

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Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are
a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution
rather than
a type that developed independently from a common ancestor of mammals more than 220 million years ago.
=======
DE are out because
instead of = substitute
rather than = alternative preference (not alternate!)

we chose B because it was parallel, not because it was the correct idiom.

independentLY is an adverb.

thoughts?

Yes I know, you choose B because of parallelism.
But in the OG, it is mentioned in the answer explanation

"... The second half of the contrast may be rewritten a type that developed independently from to complete the parellel construction. The idiom independently from is different in meaning from the idiom independent of; the logic of this sentence requires the use of independently from."

That's item #56 from the OG Verbal workbook.
Now that's what I would like to know.
The difference of usage

if you read the question again, it is not really independent from ...it is developed (adverb) from
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04 Aug 2007, 09:04
gablaze23 wrote:
bmwhype2 wrote:
hmmm

this is not really a case of independent of vs independent from.

look at the context of B.

====
Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are
a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution
rather than
a type that developed independently from a common ancestor of mammals more than 220 million years ago.
=======
DE are out because
instead of = substitute
rather than = alternative preference (not alternate!)

we chose B because it was parallel, not because it was the correct idiom.

independentLY is an adverb.

thoughts?

Yes I know, you choose B because of parallelism.
But in the OG, it is mentioned in the answer explanation

"... The second half of the contrast may be rewritten a type that developed independently from to complete the parellel construction. The idiom independently from is different in meaning from the idiom independent of; the logic of this sentence requires the use of independently from."

That's item #56 from the OG Verbal workbook.
Now that's what I would like to know.
The difference of usage

I agree with you...Even I was stuck at this point.

Independently from means irrespective of others
Independent of means not dependent on others(although it took some help...may be)

I know the meaning change is subtle but thats all I could find on the net.
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23 Oct 2011, 18:03
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Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution rather than developing independently from a common ancestor of mammals more than 220 million years ago.

(A) rather than developing independently from
(B) rather than a type that developed independently from
(C) rather than a type whose development was independent of
(D) instead of developing independently from
(E) instead of a development that was independent of

parallel structure. A and D are out

From the old point of view (which is objected by the author):
egg-laying is independently evolved, but it's still from a common ancestor of mammals.
if we use the phrase 'independent of', the clause means that egg-laying mammal is not from a common ancestor of mammals. So the meaning is changed
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Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution rather than developing independently from a common ancestor of mammals more than 220 million years ago.

(A) rather than developing independently from
(B) rather than a type that developed independently from
(C) rather than a type whose development was independent of
(D) instead of developing independently from
(E) instead of a development that was independent of

This is not really an "independent of" vs "independent from question. If that were the case, then you would narrow it down to 2 answer choices - one uses "of" and the other uses "from" ---this is not the case here.

Subtleties like these are less and less common on the GMAT. In most cases, you'll see something like the above that includes both "to" and "from" - but clearly there are other things in the sentence that are being tested.

Let's take the above as an example:

"mammals of today are a branch of [x], rather than a [blah blah blah]"
We need something that fills in the [blah blah blah] that is consistent with "a branch of [x]"

(A) is no good because the word "developing" is in the wrong form
(B) uses "rather than a type that developed independently from a common ancestor" - looks ok so far.
(C) "mammals are a branch of [x], rather than a type whose development was independent of" --- the structure is much more complicated than in (B) - so (C) is no good.
(D) "instead of developing" - we're missing the word "a [blah blah]" so (D) is no good.
(E) "instead of A development that was independent of a common ancestor" - this is wrong because it's saying that the mammals were a branch of the main steam of evolution instead of a DEVELOPMENT.

The mammals were not a development. That doesn't make sense in (E).

(B) makes more sense - the mammals were a TYPE that developed...

So we pick (B) as our final answer and move on.
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12 Nov 2011, 23:39
I am still confused about choice C. Would it be incorrect even if the sentence used "of"?

Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution rather than developing independent of a common ancestor of mammals more than 220 million years ago.

(noticed that i changed independently from to independent of)

(B) rather than a type that developed independently from
(C) rather than a type whose development was independent of

Will this change not make choice C correct answer?
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I am still confused about choice C. Would it be incorrect even if the sentence used "of"?

Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution rather than developing independent of a common ancestor of mammals more than 220 million years ago.

(noticed that i changed independently from to independent of)

(B) rather than a type that developed independently from
(C) rather than a type whose development was independent of

Will this change not make choice C correct answer?

if (C) were: "rather than a type that developed independently of" and choice (B) did not exist, (C) could be a decent answer.

Remember, your job is not to choose the best possible answer from the ones they list - not to try to devise a list of possible correct answers on your own.

Understanding exactly what you need to do on the GMAT and what extra work you don't need to do will make your GMAT studies a lot more focused on what really matters.
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07 Mar 2012, 20:01
gmatpill, u rock! I always want to hit myself in the head when I realize the error could have been avoided if I just did a simple subject agreement analysis. Thanks!
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