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What is the sum of all possible solutions to the equation \(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1\)?

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d. 5
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What is the sum of all possible solutions to the equation \(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1\)?

a. -2
b. 2
c. 3
d. 5
e. 6


First of all notice that since LHS is the square root of a number, it must be non-negative (the square root function cannot give negative result), then the RHS must also be non-negative: \(x+1\geq 0\) --> \(x \geq -1\).

Square the equation: \(2x^2-x-9=x^2+2x+1\) --> \(x^2-3x-10=0\) --> x=-2 or x=5. Discard x=-2 because it's not >=-1. We are left with only one root: 5.

Answer: D.
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Hi Bunuel,

please explain why cant we have a neg number after rooting a number

root of 16 can be -4 or +4. Thats what we also apply in different DS quest
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anurag16 wrote:
What is the sum of all possible solutions to the equation \(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1\)?

a. -2
b. 2
c. 3
d. 5
e. 6


First of all notice that since LHS is the square root of a number, it must be non-negative (the square root function cannot give negative result), then the RHS must also be non-negative: \(x+1\geq 0\) --> \(x \geq -1\).

Square the equation: \(2x^2-x-9=x^2+2x+1\) --> \(x^2-3x-10=0\) --> x=-2 or x=5. Discard x=-2 because it's not >=-1. We are left with only one root: 5.

Answer: D.


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Hi Bunuel,

please explain why cant we have a neg number after rooting a number

root of 16 can be -4 or +4. Thats what we also apply in different DS quest


When the GMAT provides the square root sign for an even root, such as \(\sqrt{x}\) or \(\sqrt[4]{x}\), then the only accepted answer is the positive root.

That is, \(\sqrt{16}=4\), NOT +4 or -4. In contrast, the equation \(x^2=16\) has TWO solutions, +4 and -4. Even roots have only a positive value on the GMAT.
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What is the sum of all possible solutions to the equation \(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1\)?

a. -2
b. 2
c. 3
d. 5
e. 6


First of all notice that since LHS is the square root of a number, it must be non-negative (the square root function cannot give negative result), then the RHS must also be non-negative: \(x+1\geq 0\) --> \(x \geq -1\).

Square the equation: \(2x^2-x-9=x^2+2x+1\) --> \(x^2-3x-10=0\) --> x=-2 or x=5. Discard x=-2 because it's not >=-1. We are left with only one root: 5.

Answer: D.


Hello , I have a doubt related to this question. Is it only the even roots that do not yield negative numbers or any number that's under root of another number can't be negative on the GMAT?
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anurag16 wrote:
What is the sum of all possible solutions to the equation \(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1\)?

a. -2
b. 2
c. 3
d. 5
e. 6


First of all notice that since LHS is the square root of a number, it must be non-negative (the square root function cannot give negative result), then the RHS must also be non-negative: \(x+1\geq 0\) --> \(x \geq -1\).

Square the equation: \(2x^2-x-9=x^2+2x+1\) --> \(x^2-3x-10=0\) --> x=-2 or x=5. Discard x=-2 because it's not >=-1. We are left with only one root: 5.

Answer: D.


Hello , I have a doubt related to this question. Is it only the even roots that do not yield negative numbers or any number that's under root of another number can't be negative on the GMAT?


When the GMAT provides the square root sign for an even root, such as \(\sqrt{x}\) or \(\sqrt[4]{x}\), then the only accepted answer is the positive root.

That is, \(\sqrt{16}=4\), NOT +4 or -4. In contrast, the equation \(x^2=16\) has TWO solutions, +4 and -4. Even roots have only a positive value on the GMAT.

Odd roots have the same sign as the base of the root. For example, \(\sqrt[3]{125} =5\) and \(\sqrt[3]{-64} =-4\).
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What is the sum of all possible solutions to the equation \sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1?

1. -2
2. 2
3. 3
4. 5
5. 6



\(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}\) = x+1
squaring both sides
\(x^2-3x-10=0\)
(x-5)(x+2)=0
x = 5 or -2
sum of the possible solutions is 5 + (-2) = 3
But -2 is not a solution as it will not satisfy the equation . so , only 5 is valid solution
Answer is D .

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I am assuming this question to be \(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1\)

Squaring on both the sides:
\(2x^2-x-9=x^2+2x+1\)
Simplifying will yield:
\(x^2-3x-10=0\)
\((x-5)(x+2)\)
x = 5 or -2
Sum of all possible solutions is \(5 + (-2) = 3\)
Ans: C

Please confirm the OA.
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What is the sum of all possible solutions to the equation \sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1?

1. -2
2. 2
3. 3
4. 5
5. 6


One way to do it..
\(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1\)...
Square both sides..
\(2x^2-x-9=x^2+2x+1........ x^2-3x-10=0\)
This is of the form ax^2+bx+c=0...
sum of roots: -b/a
Product of roots: C/a

Here b is -3 and a is 1..
Ans =-(-3)/1=3

On second thought
However the answer may not come correctly here.
\(x^2-3x-10=0.......(x-5)(x+2)=0\)
So the solutions are 5 and -2...
But in initial equation, x as -2 will give x+1as -2+1=-1..
But in GMAT square root is always POSITIVE, so -2 cannot be a solution..
Only 5 is possible..
D

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Pritishd wrote:
I am assuming this question to be \(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1\)

Squaring on both the sides:
\(2x^2-x-9=x^2+2x+1\)
Simplifying will yield:
\(x^2-3x-10=0\)
\((x-5)(x+2)\)
x = 5 or -2
Sum of all possible solutions is \(5 + (-2) = 3\)
Ans: C

Please confirm the OA.



OA: option d: 5



If we put back the solution x = -2 into the equation then it is not valid .
We get 1 = -(1) , which is not true .
However, for x = 5 then equation is valid giving the result 6 = 6 .

Hence only 5 is a valid solution for the equation .
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What is the sum of all possible solutions to the equation \(\sqrt{2x^2-x-9}=x+1\)?

a. -2
b. 2
c. 3
d. 5
e. 6


Squaring the equation we have:

2x^2 - x - 9 = (x + 1)^2

2x^2 - x - 9 = x^2 + 2x + 1

x^2 - 3x - 10 = 0

(x - 5)(x + 2) = 0

x = 5 or x = -2

However, whenever we are dealing with an equation involving square root(s), we always have to check our solutions.

If x = 5, we have:

√(2(5)^2 - 5 - 9) = 5 + 1 ?

√(36) = 6 ?

6 = 6 ? Yes!

If x = -2, we have:

√(2(-2)^2 - (-2) - 9) = -2 + 1 ?

√(1) = -1 ?

1 = -1 ? No!

Thus we see that the only solution is 5 (and thus the sum of all possible solutions is 5).

Answer: D
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