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What is the value of y?

(1) x^2 - y^2 = 5
(2) x and y are each positive integers
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16 Dec 2012, 02:52
JJ2014 wrote:
what is the value of y?

(1) x^2 - y^2 = 5
(2) x and y are each positive integers

Hi,

From 1, we get (x-y)(x+y)=5 i.e (x-y)=1,5 or (x+y)= 5,1...solving we get 2 values of y (one positive and one negative)

From 2 alone we get nothing

combining 1 & 2 we get X and Y as postive and we get one solution
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JJ2014 wrote:
What is the value of y?

(1) x^2 - y^2 = 5
(2) x and y are each positive integers

Hi,

From 1, we get (x-y)(x+y)=5 i.e (x-y)=1,5 or (x+y)= 5,1...solving we get 2 values of y (one positive and one negative)

From 2 alone we get nothing

combining 1 & 2 we get X and Y as postive and we get one solution

The red part is not correct. From x^2 - y^2 = 5 we cannot say that x-y=1 and x+y=5 (or vise-versa) because for (1) we don't know whether x and y are integers. So, for example it's possible that x-y=10 and x+y=1/2. Even if we knew that x and y are integers, still from (x+y)(x-y)=5 it follows that x+y=5 and x-y=1 (or vise versa) OR x+y=-5 and x-y=-1 (or vise versa).

What is the value of y?

(1) x^2 - y^2 = 5. Infinitely many solutions exist for x and y. Not sufficient.

(2) x and y are each positive integers. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Since $$x$$ and $$y$$ are positive integers then $$x+y=integer>0$$ and $$x-y=integer$$ AND $$x+y>x-y$$. Thus from $$x^2 - y^2 =(x+y)(x-y)= 5$$ we'd have that $$x+y=5$$ and $$x-y=1$$, from which it follows that $$y=2$$. Sufficient.

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(1)$$x^{2}$$-$$y^{2}$$=5
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28 Feb 2013, 22:30
Did you want an explanation?
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Did you want an explanation?

nope just posted the question! If you think its too easy please tag this question as sub 600
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Did you want an explanation?

nope just posted the question! If you think its too easy please tag this question as sub 600

Ok. Thanks for contributing this problem! As for the difficulty, I have no gauge for the level of questions.
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28 Feb 2013, 23:36
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NonYankee wrote:
Did you want an explanation?

nope just posted the question! If you think its too easy please tag this question as sub 600

Ok. Thanks for contributing this problem! As for the difficulty, I have no gauge for the level of questions.

we mere mortals talk in terms of difficulty level For you, its a different ball game! you should ask is this a sub-800 question?? LOL
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:) we mere mortals talk in terms of difficulty level For you, its a different ball game! you should ask is this a sub-800 question?? LOL

Hahaha that made me literally laugh out loud!
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(1)$$x^{2}$$-$$y^{2}$$=5
(2) x and y are each positive integers.

Merging similar topics.
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rajathpanta wrote:
NonYankee wrote:
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nope just posted the question! If you think its too easy please tag this question as sub 600

Ok. Thanks for contributing this problem! As for the difficulty, I have no gauge for the level of questions.

I'd say that the difficulty level of this question is ~650.
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01 Mar 2013, 07:29
Hi Bunuel,

X+y=5 and X-y=1. I always used to think that it will mean x+y=5 or x-y=5.

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Hi Bunuel,

X+y=5 and X-y=1. I always used to think that it will mean x+y=5 or x-y=5.

When we consider the two statements together we have that both $$x$$ and $$y$$ are positive integers, thus $$x+y=integer>0$$ and $$x-y=integer$$ AND $$x+y>x-y$$.

Next, we also have that $$x^2 - y^2 =(x+y)(x-y)= 5$$, so we have that the product of two multiple, x+y and x-y is equal to 5, a prime number. Since $$x+y=integer>0$$ and $$x-y=integer$$, then x+y must be 5 AND x-y must be 1: 5*1=5.

Hope it's clear.
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