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# Whenever it is rainy, Janet goes to the mall. Therefore, it

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Whenever it is rainy, Janet goes to the mall. Therefore, it must be rainy, because Janet just left for the mall.

Which of the following exhibits a parallel pattern of reasoning as the argument above?

(A) Everyone who is crazy about U2 went to the concert. Since Stacy did not go to the concert, she must not be crazy about U2.
(B) Joe's Vinyl shop shows profit whenever the local stadium hires extra workers.Because the stadium has recently hired extra workers, Joe's Vinyl shop will show profit.
(C) Cookies To Go has always endured an annual loss whenever the S&P 500 falls more than 15% in the preceding quarter. The company had an annual loss this year. Therefore, the S&P must have fallen more than 15% in the preceding quarter.
(D)Whenever they eat too much candy, little children become hyper and very hard to control. Since little Cameron is behaving very well, she must not have eaten too much candy.
(E) Every Thanksgiving, JC Penny gives away 20% discount coupons. I just got JC Penny discount coupons in the mall. Therefore, it must be Thanksgiving.

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28 Oct 2003, 13:24
E is also my guess. Follows the same faulty reasoning.

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29 Oct 2003, 01:27
I chose E, but the correct choice according to the test is (C).
Can anyone clarify why (C) is correct and not (E) ?

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29 Oct 2003, 01:52

there is a possibility that JC Penny can offer a huge variety of discount coupons (e.g. 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%).

Maybe you've just got a 10% coupon

So E is not EXACTLY parallel with presented reasoning

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29 Oct 2003, 02:53
IMO the key criteria here (and probably in other similar questions) is whether two actions analyzed are related to each other (showing clear cause-effect sequence) or not. In argument itself and in choice C this connection is faulty, in E it really exists. Choice B (which I initially chose) is pretty close to the pattern I suggest, but it doesn't sound parallel in the second part of the sentense.
I'm sure Akamai would explain this better, since imo reasoning in this argument is a subject of all those patterns: if A then B, B if and only if A... and such..

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29 Oct 2003, 08:25
I also chose E using Akamai's basics. M not sure whether thay have been applied corrdctly here. Akamai need to shed some light on this.

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31 Oct 2003, 23:58
The stimulus is exactly of the form:
if P then Q. (if rain then mall)
Q. (mall)
Conclusion (faulty): P (rain)

(C) follows this exactly pattern.

(E) looks like C, but the fact that you got a Penney's coupon at the mall is not the same as saying "Penney's gave you a 20% coupon" as you could have gotten the coupon from anyone and it could be very old or for a different discount. Hence, of the two, C matches much better and is the best answer.
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01 Nov 2003, 01:40
got C not seeing the discussion

The original pattern: If R, then M; If M, then R. (BTW, a faulty conclusion)
C employs the very same.

Formal logic rules!!!

Once you understood it in if/then conditions, such questions are easy to crack.

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13 Jul 2012, 10:51
A does the best job, so that is my pick.
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13 Jul 2012, 20:10
my answer is B

style of question is if X, Y. Y happenned, X should have happenned. B is the only choice which has such a logic

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Whenever it is rainy, Janet goes to the mall. Therefore, it must be rainy, because Janet just left for the mall.

Which of the following exhibits a parallel pattern of reasoning as the argument above?

(A) Everyone who is crazy about U2 went to the concert. Since Stacy did not go to the concert, she must not be crazy about U2.
(B) Joe's Vinyl shop shows profit whenever the local stadium hires extra workers.Because the stadium has recently hired extra workers, Joe's Vinyl shop will show profit.
(C) Cookies To Go has always endured an annual loss whenever the S&P 500 falls more than 15% in the preceding quarter. The company had an annual loss this year. Therefore, the S&P must have fallen more than 15% in the preceding quarter.
(D)Whenever they eat too much candy, little children become hyper and very hard to control. Since little Cameron is behaving very well, she must not have eaten too much candy.
(E) Every Thanksgiving, JC Penny gives away 20% discount coupons. I just got JC Penny discount coupons in the mall. Therefore, it must be Thanksgiving.

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17 Jul 2012, 14:04
I would go with C.

It matches the patteren in the argument..all other do not.

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17 Jul 2012, 14:14
My answer is C.
Just follow the logic: Whenever A than B. Therefore, it must be A, because it's B.
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17 Jul 2012, 14:39
Togh choice between B and E. I choose E

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Whenever it is rainy, Janet goes to the mall. Therefore, it must be rainy, because Janet just left for the mall.

Given : Whenever A happens -> B happens. So A must be happening because B is also happenning

(A) Everyone who is crazy about U2 went to the concert. Since Stacy did not go to the concert, she must not be crazy about U2.
>> All A's do B. Since Stacy did not do B, she is not A. - Wrong

(B) Joe's Vinyl shop shows profit whenever the local stadium hires extra workers.Because the stadium has recently hired extra workers, Joe's Vinyl shop will show profit.
>> Whenever A happens -> B happens. Since B has happened, A will happen too.

(C) Cookies To Go has always endured an annual loss whenever the S&P 500 falls more than 15% in the preceding quarter. The company had an annual loss this year. Therefore, the S&P must have fallen more than 15% in the preceding quarter.
>> Whenever A happens -> B happens. A happened, so B must have happenend.

(D)Whenever they eat too much candy, little children become hyper and very hard to control. Since little Cameron is behaving very well, she must not have eaten too much candy.
>> Whenever A happens -> B happens. Since B is not happenening, A must have not happened

(E) Every Thanksgiving, JC Penny gives away 20% discount coupons. I just got JC Penny discount coupons in the mall. Therefore, it must be Thanksgiving
>> Whenever A happens -> B happens. B is happenening so A must also be happenening

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17 Jul 2012, 19:15
i go with E but just because it says 20% ....not sure if it rules out the answer choice

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