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I have a question. In the construction "Whereas X, Y", do X and Y need to be parallel. In A, they don't seem to be parallel.

Can you please help?

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Hi ss18,

I would be happy to help you. :)


In this official sentence, we do see the structure whereas X, Y in which X and Y are parallel because both X and Y are a clause.

X = lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries,
Y = in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct,...

(Subjects = blue, Verbs = Green)


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New post 12 Jun 2017, 23:59
Thank you, Shradha. I appreciate your time and such a quickly reply! I think I didn't elaborate on my query well. While both X and Y are clauses, my confusion was akin to how Unlike X, Y work.

Consider this construction using "Unlike X, Y" : Unlike Angela, Mary has siblings. Here, Angela and Mary are being compared about a certain aspect and the sentence must be written with the nouns (the entity being compared) adjacent to each other.

Option A(correct choice) : Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

Query 1: In Option A, which is the correct answer, I agree that X and Y are clauses and hence grammatically parallel. My confusion is that does a strict rule regarding placement of the quantity being compared apply to "Whereas X, Y" too?

Query 2: Do these modified versions work?

Modified (A), I've moved phrase "in the Internet industry": Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

Or

Modified (A), I've added a comma after "internet industry" : Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry, they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.


I hope I've not convoluted my query!

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Hi Sayantan,

I have a question. In the construction "Whereas X, Y", do X and Y need to be parallel. In A, they don't seem to be parallel.

Can you please help?

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Hi ss18,

I would be happy to help you. :)


In this official sentence, we do see the structure whereas X, Y in which X and Y are parallel because both X and Y are a clause.

X = lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries,
Y = in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct,...

(Subjects = blue, Verbs = Green)


Hope this helps. :-)
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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete -- The adverb 'one day' is correctly modifying the verb compete. correct choice

B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies ---The adverbial modifier 'one day' in the non-underlined part is wrongly modifying the noun companies.

C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete -- 1. Unparallel comparison; the Internet is being compared with 'in the more established industries'. 2. The Internet is not a place to be referred by 'where'


D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete ---1. where is not a place to be modified by 'where'. 2. Unparallel comparison. 'in the Internet industry' is being compared with just more established industries and not 'in the more established industries'


E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies ----Unparallel comparison; of the Internet industry is being compared with just more established industries and not of the more established industries
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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies
C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete
E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies
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Could you please explain why option a is better than option b(in what respect)?

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Could you please explain why option a is better than option b(in what respect)?


Pay attention to the non-underlined phrase one day, phrase one day can not modify the noun companies --> option B is wrong; instead, phrase one day should modify the verb compete --> option A is correct.

PS: To modify a noun like companies in B, we should you an adjective or another noun. phrase one day here is an adverb.

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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

The clear understanding of the sentence will eliminate all the wrong choice

Meaning
The competition of the established industries are more defined and structure but in the Internet industry, the competition is very blurred and indistinct to such an extent that the rivals companies become friends quite often.

Here competition lines (behavior) of the established industries and competition lines (behavior)of the internet industries are compared

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A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
The meaning is intact and the comparing entities are apt.
B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies
Meaning ambiguity: Here as competing companies the second sentence presents as evidence for the blurred and indistinct competition lines of the internet industry. This is not the intended meaning
C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
The comparing entities are wrong
The lines of competition and Internet

D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete
The comparing entities are wrong.
more established industries and the lines of competition

E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined oflines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies
The comparing entities are wrong
more established industries and lines of competition
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Imo A

C and D are out because they use where to refer to internet .
E is wordy and use those of does not refer back to anything , it should refer back to the The lines of competition but in E this does not happen .
Also note that we need companies that compete one day to correctly reflect the idea that competitors can become partners .
B is missing that although comparison is correct here .
Competing companies one day what ?
Does not make sense .
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Could you please explain why option a is better than option b(in what respect)?


Pay attention to the non-underlined phrase one day, phrase one day can not modify the noun companies --> option B is wrong; instead, phrase one day should modify the verb compete --> option A is correct.

PS: To modify a noun like companies in B, we should you an adjective or another noun. phrase one day here is an adverb.

Does all this make sense? :P


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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

This is a comparison between the fledgling Internet industry and other industries that are more established than the Internet industry. Again logically speaking, they can only refer to the lines and not the established Industries. Although and whereas are both contrast markers and I would feel any of them is good enough.

However, we can decide this question through grammatical clues.



A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete ---'One day' is an adverb and requires a verb such as compete to modify. That is what A provides. Correct.

B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies -- The adverb ‘one day’ cannot modify 'companies', a noun.

C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete – The Internet is a not a physical place. ‘Where’ is not the appropriate relative pronoun to refer to ‘Internet’.

D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete --- Industries are not places that can be referred by ‘where’.

E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies -- ‘those’ is wrong since the comparison is with Internet Industry and not those of the internet industry. In addition, competing companies 'has' modification problems as in B


I'm confused
per choice B, The adverb ‘one day’ cannot modify 'companies', a noun.
so what about "the next" in the non underline part. Which part does it modify?

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in chapter 6 of manhattan book, it is mentioned that Do not use comparative adjectives unless you have THAN in the sentence. "With winter coming, I will have higher energy bills" -wrong but in Option A we does not have THAN. is it assumed defined in the more established industries [than] in the internet industry.

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Avinash_R1 wrote:
in chapter 6 of manhattan book, it is mentioned that Do not use comparative adjectives unless you have THAN in the sentence. "With winter coming, I will have higher energy bills" -wrong but in Option A we does not have THAN. is it assumed defined in the more established industries [than] in the internet industry.


Your understanding is in the right direction, but not exactly on the target - here "more established industries" refer to the industries that are more established than the Internet industry (not that "..more clearly defined in certain other industries than in Internet industry" - the use of "in" before "the internet industry" in your post is wrong.)

Also this example shows that a comparative adjective can used even without "than" when the comparison is implied.

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