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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies

C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete

E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies


OA is A, not B as it is provided in the question stem

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I'd like to confirm OA is A, not B. This question is discussed many times and was explained by several instructors.
I corrected the OA, hope it's clear.
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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
Correct.

B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies
Wrong.
"the more established industries" differs from "industries that are more established". If you say "THE more + Adjective + Noun" ==> [more adjective] plays as adjective that modifies the noun directly. But when you say "industries that are more established ....(than what?)" ==> you're comparing industries with some thing else. But there's nothing to compare here --> the comparison is incomplete. (correct grammar is: .... more ....than....)


C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
Wrong. Comparison problem: the lines vs. the internet.

D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete
Wrong. Pronoun problem. "they" refers to what?

E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies[/quote]
Wrong. Pronoun problem. "those" refers to what?

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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and in distinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.


A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and in distinct, as companies that compete


There is no problem in A. Identifying the SV pairs, highlighted in red, in the sentence shows that the comparisons are actually parallel. Lines of competition in the more established industries are correctly compared to those of the internet industry.

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This is a GMATPrep question, and I just answered this question in my exam. The OA is A.

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I too marked (B).

However while reviewing I analysed the structure as:

Whereas the lines of ....in X, in Y they are blurred...... (Somewhat correct ||ism, would be best if it had been as below:

Whereas the lines of... in X, those of... in Y are......

What is wrong with (B).

Companies that compete one day may be partners the next. (A), here that restricts the type of companies and compete one day partner other day.

Competing companies one day may be partners next. (B), here somewhat awkward.
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Can you please help with this:

Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies
C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete
E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies


I eliminated B because of "Although". C was eliminated because of in-correct comparison. In E, the antecedent for "those" is not clear. I selected D thinking that "Unlike" is needed since we are contrasting two different industries. Thanks for your help.

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the answer has to be A :Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

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I eliminated B because of "Although

this is not correct

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I selected D thinking that "Unlike" is needed since we are contrasting two different industries


u r logic was good but the problem is that D is making a faulty comparison,hence it is wrong

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why B is wrong?
B says: Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies
the construction "competing companies" is wrong

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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and in distinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.


A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and in distinct, as companies that compete


There is no problem in A. Identifying the SV pairs, highlighted in red, in the sentence shows that the comparisons are actually parallel. Lines of competition in the more established industries are correctly compared to those of the internet industry.



What is wrong with option B ?
Phrase "competing companies" doesn't change the meaning of sentence and neither does "Although". In fact the presence of "Although" clears the intent of 'they' in 2nd part of sentence. (i.e. lines of competition)

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More established companies --- ambiguous meaning quantity or quality
companies that are more established --- clearly talks about quality.

But the end portion of A is better than B's.

Here is an explanation by MGMAT instructors regarding use of more : http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/nea ... t7217.html
Two different usages:
X is more than Y. (comparing 2 things)
He is more X. (a higher number/quality/whatever of X)

Therefore I think use of more without than is fine if you are not bringing in 2nd element in your sentence for comparison.

A and B are debatable.
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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and in distinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.


A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and in distinct, as companies that compete


There is no problem in A. Identifying the SV pairs, highlighted in red, in the sentence shows that the comparisons are actually parallel. Lines of competition in the more established industries are correctly compared to those of the internet industry.



What is wrong with option B ?
Phrase "competing companies" doesn't change the meaning of sentence and neither does "Although". In fact the presence of "Although" clears the intent of 'they' in 2nd part of sentence. (i.e. lines of competition)

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Hello mate..

m not an expert but jus thot to try my best to explain..

in B,the sentence doesnt end well,although it quite clearly compares the lines of competition...the end is highly awkward as it states competing companies ,and may mean that they are,competing at the current moment...A however,puts it in simple present tense which is required in the context of the sentence..

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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies

C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete

E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies


In the default statement the contrast is b/w "lines of competition" and "in internet industry"

whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct,

- the sentence can be easily reworded -"whereas LOC are clearly........they are blurred and indistinct in the internet industry"

The contrast is correct in Option B, but the official answer is A. Why so?

What should the approach in such Q`s where the contrast in the default statement is not proper.

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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies

C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete

E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies


In the default statement the contrast is b/w "lines of competition" and "in internet industry"

whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct,

- the sentence can be easily reworded -"whereas LOC are clearly........they are blurred and indistinct in the internet industry"

The contrast is correct in Option B, but the official answer is A. Why so?

What should the approach in such Q`s where the contrast in the default statement is not proper.



Hi Ashsish,

Thanks for posting your doubt here. :-)

There is absolutely no problem in presenting the contrast Choice A. As you have already noticed. the Subject of the first clause "lines of competition" is contrasted with the Subject of the second clause "they" that stands for "lines of competition". The prepositional phrase "in the internet industry" is a modifier for "they". Yes, for absolute identical parallelism, it could be placed after "they". But its placement before "they" DOES NOT make the intended contrast incorrect. Such usage is absolutely acceptable on the GMAT.

Choice B may have a complete identical grammatical parallelism between "lines of competition" and "they". But there are other blatant issues with this choice.
Firstly, "industries that are more established" is wordier than "more established industries".
Secondly, "competing companies one day" does not clearly convey that the companies that are being talked about compete one day may become partners the other day.

Hope this helps. :-)
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Don't you think more established companies is equivocal.

What more ? quantity or quality.
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Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies
C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete
E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies


A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete - correct
B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies - continuous tense, not preferable
C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete - has to be internet industry not INTERNET -> changes the meaning
D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete - Comparision of two different things. Establuished industries are compared with 'lines of competition'
E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies - same as D

IMO A
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wacky1984 wrote:
Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

A. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

B. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies

C. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

D. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete

E. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies


In the default statement the contrast is b/w "lines of competition" and "in internet industry"

whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct,

- the sentence can be easily reworded -"whereas LOC are clearly........they are blurred and indistinct in the internet industry"

The contrast is correct in Option B, but the official answer is A. Why so?

What should the approach in such Q`s where the contrast in the default statement is not proper.



Hi Ashsish,

Thanks for posting your doubt here. :-)

There is absolutely no problem in presenting the contrast Choice A. As you have already noticed. the Subject of the first clause "lines of competition" is contrasted with the Subject of the second clause "they" that stands for "lines of competition". The prepositional phrase "in the internet industry" is a modifier for "they". Yes, for absolute identical parallelism, it could be placed after "they". But its placement before "they" DOES NOT make the intended contrast incorrect. Such usage is absolutely acceptable on the GMAT.

Choice B may have a complete identical grammatical parallelism between "lines of competition" and "they". But there are other blatant issues with this choice.
Firstly, "industries that are more established" is wordier than "more established industries".
Secondly, "competing companies one day" does not clearly convey that the companies that are being talked about compete one day may become partners the other day.

Hope this helps. :-)
Thanks.
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What is wrong with D?
It clearly and is most closely placed to "lines" and not to "industries" so I don't really see what the problem with that is.
Can someone comment?

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