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Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.

A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue


A, B & C - Lack independent clause.

D - Verb should be in plural form.

E - Not a great construction but best among the given options.
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Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.

POE:
Is vs are - Subject is singular here. So, we need singular verb 'is'.
Eliminate (B), (C).
Eliminate (D) - 'being' is redundant on gmat.
Eliminate(E) - changes the intended meaning.


A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue - CORRECT

B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
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Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.

FACT 1-> This question can be solved on the simple use of whether... and if..then. Whether can be used directly without providing an alternate option if the second option is just reverse of first. And if if is used, then then has to be used. SO clearly B is out.
FACT 2-> Starting with that is sounding the statement awkward. So C is out.
FACT 3-> Option D seems incomplete. It has used being in start and then using is at end.
FACT 4-> How a useful application will be an issue. If the application is useful, then how it is not useful is not explained. Option A summarizes the doubt on whether the technique is useful or not.

A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
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A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue -> Keep
B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues -> Subject verb agreement issue. Subject is singular here.

C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues -> Subject verb agreement issue. Subject is singular here.

D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue -> Meaning changes. The original sentence is wondering whether or not modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied. In this sentence we are losing on that conditional aspect.

E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue -> Meaning changes. Same as D

Henceforth, correct answer: A
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B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues -> Subject verb agreement issue. Subject is singular here.

How is modern statistical techniques singular? Kindly explain


The sentence talks about the issue historians and economists are currently debating on. The issue being, whether or not the modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to different aspects. Henceforth, the subject is not "modern statistical techniques", but "If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied".
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Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.

A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue



Hello VeritasPrepHailey can you please explain this question?
I understand that only option A is concise and clear, but i do not understand this part "techniques.....is". Please explain this part. isn't there is significant subject verb problem here?


It looks like generis has addressed your question quite thoroughly - but I'll add my two cents and echo the responses made in case it helps prakhar992. :)

We can use logic and sentence construction to see, in the sentence, what "is an issue." It is not the techniques that "is an issue." The sentence is attempting to say that "whether" we can apply these techniques is the issue, and since the noun clause "Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied" is singular, we need singular agreement.

If you get in the habit of using both logic and sentence construction to better address questions of agreement, it should make your task easier and keep you from getting caught up in constructions you initially find confusing (particularly pesky cases where the noun clause or associated modifiers include plural terminology despite the singular nature of the subject!)

I hope this helps!
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B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues -> Subject verb agreement issue. Subject is singular here.

How is modern statistical techniques singular? Kindly explain
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Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.

A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue



Hello VeritasPrepHailey can you please explain this question?
I understand that only option A is concise and clear, but i do not understand this part "techniques.....is". Please explain this part. isn't there is significant subject verb problem here?
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Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.

A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues
C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues
D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue



Hello VeritasPrepHailey can you please explain this question?
I understand that only option A is concise and clear, but i do not understand this part "techniques.....is". Please explain this part. isn't there is significant subject verb problem here?

prakhar992 , this question does not really test concision.
Option E is concise.
The question tests noun clauses (also called substantive clauses or nominal clauses).

I explain noun clauses in my OE, here.

The whole subordinate clause is the subject.
Techniques is not the subject.
Whether the techniques are useful . . . is the subject.

I gave five examples and linked to an article and a video in my OE.
Please read the article and watch the video.
That advice goes for anyone who is slightly confused about this question.
Many of you will be confused by this question. That's okay.

Here are two examples of a noun clause that ends with a plural noun but takes a singular verb because a noun clause -- the whole thing -- is singular no matter what word comes at the end.

How you prefer to cook your vegetables is often influenced by cultural norms.
Whoever made these messes needs to clean them up.

Hope that helps.
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Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.

A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues
C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues
D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue



Hello VeritasPrepHailey can you please explain this question?
I understand that only option A is concise and clear, but i do not understand this part "techniques.....is". Please explain this part. isn't there is significant subject verb problem here?

prakhar992 , this question does not really test concision.
Option E is concise.
The question tests noun clauses (also called substantive clauses or nominal clauses).

I explain noun clauses in my OE, here.

The whole subordinate clause is the subject.
Techniques is not the subject.
Whether the techniques are useful . . . is the subject.

I gave five examples and linked to an article and a video in my OE.
Please read the article and watch the video.
That advice goes for anyone who is slightly confused about this question.
Many of you will be confused by this question. That's okay.

Here are two examples of a noun clause that ends with a plural noun but takes a singular verb because a noun clause -- the whole thing -- is singular no matter what word comes at the end.

How you prefer to cook your vegetables is often influenced by cultural norms.
Whoever made these messes needs to clean them up.

Hope that helps.



Thank you for explaining in such a nice way.
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Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.

A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues

D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue

E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue



Hello VeritasPrepHailey can you please explain this question?
I understand that only option A is concise and clear, but i do not understand this part "techniques.....is". Please explain this part. isn't there is significant subject verb problem here?


It looks like generis has addressed your question quite thoroughly - but I'll add my two cents and echo the responses made in case it helps prakhar992. :)

We can use logic and sentence construction to see, in the sentence, what "is an issue." It is not the techniques that "is an issue." The sentence is attempting to say that "whether" we can apply these techniques is the issue, and since the noun clause "Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied" is singular, we need singular agreement.

If you get in the habit of using both logic and sentence construction to better address questions of agreement, it should make your task easier and keep you from getting caught up in constructions you initially find confusing (particularly pesky cases where the noun clause or associated modifiers include plural terminology despite the singular nature of the subject!)

I hope this helps!



Thanks VeritasPrepHailey for helping. Yes, my doubt is now clear.
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