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With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about public health and safety there.


(A) With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about

(B) With California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about

(C) As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for

(D) Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about

(E) Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about


2/2/1 split..
I was thinking that the use of ''grown & increasingly'' is redundant....crossed A out ...and marked D.
Looks like the usage of idiom ''insofar as'' is not correct in D ?

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A question of style and idiom

A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about --- By about the best.

B. with California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about --- as much as – a wrong idiom.

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for ----- as much as – a wrong idiom.

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about – In so far as means in as much as ; The problem is in blackouts as 30 days – which leads to weird comparison .

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about --- ‘blackouts for’ is not idiomatic; it should be ‘blackouts


Generally, the sentence construction is rather poor.
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A question of style and idiom

A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about --- By about the best.

B. with California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about --- as much as – a wrong idiom.

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for ----- as much as – a wrong idiom.

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about – In so far as means in as much as ; The problem is in blackouts as 30 days – which leads to weird comparison .

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about --- ‘blackouts for’ is not idiomatic; it should be ‘blackouts


Generally, the sentence construction is rather poor.


I think E is wrong because the sentence says
California expects to see (1)severe electricity shortfalls
(2)possibility of blackout

expected to see and possibility are redundant
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Option E is wrong for 3 reasons:

1. Redundancy (as you pointed out): "expects" and "possibility of".

2. "blackout for 30 days" implies black out would continue for 30 consecutive days in summer. The original meaning does not imply 30 consecutive days, but total 30 days in the summer.

3. "Insofar as" is interchangeable with "to the extent". I shall help you insofar as you allow me to = I shall help you to the extent you allow me to. The extent (or amount) of my help depends on how much you allow me.

In the option E: The administration has grown increasingly concerned insofar as California expects electricity shortfall and blackout = The administration has grown concerned to the extent California expects electricity shortfall and blackout.
Option E implies that the extent of growth of concern is determined by how much expectation California has. However the original sentence does not convey any relation between the degree of growth and extent of expectation - the intended meaning is just that the expectation of California caused a growth in concern of administration ; there is no degree comparison.
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Hi Experts / chetan2u / daagh ,

Isn't grown +increasingly are redundant in A and E.
Can you please share your opinion on this..??

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Hi,
the REDUNDANCY will depend on the context in which grown has been used..

1) grown-- Increase
Cricket's popularity has grown increasingly.. WRONG

2) grown- become..
the boy has grown increasingly weak..

It is in this context that GROWN has been used in the sentence..
substitute BECOME in place of GROWN, you will find the sentence perfectly fine..
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The original sentence has “…California is expected to see…blackouts on as many as 30 days…”. B has “as much as 30 days”. “Days” are countable, so “many” is used and not “much”. C has the same problem. D incorrectly eliminates the “on”. In E “blackouts for 30 days” changes the meaning, implying that a blackout may last 30 days. A is correct. Notice the redundancy is C’s “to be seeing”, rather than the shorter “to see”.
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Hi RonPurewal , answer A has with + clause, is it OK? I thought that usage of with is unacceptable?

Dear ng.phg.mai,

Although I'm not the genius Mr. Ron Purewal, I'm happy to respond. :-)

This is a blog articles that provides some context on this subtle rule:
with + [noun] + [participle] on GMAT Sentence Correction
If you understand the two cases discussed in that article, you see that this particular question is a little different, primarily because the participle used is not the present active participle (e.g. "expecting") but the past passive participle ("expected").

When we have the structure "with" + [noun] + [present participle], there's the possibility that this could fall into Case I in that article, action by a different actor, and that always requires a full bonafide subordinate clause.

Instead, when we have "with" + [noun] + [past participle], especially with a "mental verb" such as "to expect," there's not really an action happening. It's more a background condition, and this is much closer to Case II described in that article.

With Mike going to the store to buy tomatoes, Chris planned to make a salad.
That has the present participle, which is always active. This describes a full action by an actor, different from the action & actor of the main clause. This is the forbidden case. If you want to talk about an action, don't try to cram that into a measly preposition phrase--a full action deserves a full verb, and therefore we need a full clause for this action.

With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown . . .
This has the past participle, which is always passive. There's not really an "action" being done in the first part of the sentence--it's more a background condition, a static state of affairs which provides context for the action of the main clause. There's no sense of a "competition" between two different actions, as there is in the previous example.

My friend, if you think about grammar and grammar rules purely mechanically, the GMAT SC will punish you. You always have to think about meaning. The primary purpose of human language is to convey meaning, and all grammar exists purely to support the communication of meaning.

Does all this make sense?
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Experts please comment why A is correct?
Is nt it a construction
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I would not suggest to eliminate a choice outright because it has "Preposition + noun + participle" construction.

Such construction is correct when the object of preposition is the "noun", but not the "participle". Example: With California expected to see.... California is the object of the preposition "with"... correct.

However the construction would be wrong if the participle were the object of preposition - following is an example from Ron Purewal of MGMAT:
you can't say "my parents heard about me failing the test". the reason isn't simply because it's prep+pron+verb, though, but because of semantics: they didn't hear about me - they heard about the failing.
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Analogy:

With California driven to the brink of bankruptcy by its overly generous government spending, ...

This ^^ could be the beginning of another sentence, with grammar analogous to that of the sentence here.
Note that "driven..." is a MODIFIER. If this were a past-tense verb, it would be "drove".

Do you see the problem?
You're processing THIS sentence under the (mistaken) assumption that "expected" is grammatically analogous to "drove" (a past-tense verb), when in fact it's analogous to "driven" (a modifier).
You just have to be more careful here, because the past-tense verb and the modifier forms of "expected" are written the same way; they don't have two distinct forms, like "drove" and "driven".
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A question of style and idiom

A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about --- By about the best.

B. with California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about --- as much as – a wrong idiom.

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for ----- as much as – a wrong idiom.

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about – In so far as means in as much as ; The problem is in blackouts as 30 days – which leads to weird comparison .

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about --- ‘blackouts for’ is not idiomatic; it should be ‘blackouts


Generally, the sentence construction is rather poor.


I think E is wrong because the sentence says
California expects to see (1)severe electricity shortfalls
(2)possibility of blackout

expected to see and possibility are redundant
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Hi Experts / chetan2u / daagh ,

Isn't grown +increasingly are redundant in A and E.
Can you please share your opinion on this..??

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could someone tell me the difference between-
Administration has grown increasingly concerned about & Administration has increasing concern about


Administration has grown increasingly concerned about : refers to a period of time in which the the admininstration has grown something (increasingly).

Administration has increasing concern about: refers to a point of time in which Administration has something (that is increasing).

My opinion is that this difference in meaning (if one could call it a difference at all) could safely be ignored.
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With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about public health and safety there.


A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about

B. With California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts on as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for as much as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about


Experts, please help me explain:
- Why not D? What wrong with it?
- in A: "has grown increasingly concerned about" is it redundancy? I hear it a little strange
- The generally using of "With"

Thank you so much!


Since you have queries on the OA and D, I will touch upon them only..
D. D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts on as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about
In so far means ' to the extent that' and it does not fit in ..
if you look at the original Q it talks of both severe electricity shortfallsand perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, D removes the summer from 30 days and it seems now these 30 days are in complete year..

OA -
With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about..
there is no redunancy in grown increasingly..
here GROWN means BECOME..
so it is-- "the administration has grown become increasingly concerned about.. thats OK
yes I had read people talking preposition + noun + participle to be considered wrongh on GMAT.. But now it seems they are flexible on it..

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is this part underlined in the Q or not?
public health and safety there

Why is B wrong?


Hi paidlukkha, my mistake, I've edited the question.

Regarding B, the structure "the construction (preposition) + NOUN + VERBing" is WRONG, unless the preposition refers directly to the NOUN
you can refer explanation of Ron here :https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/post26678.html#p26678
Additional: in this case you can think "expecting...." is a V-ing modifier to "California", but I think the preposition refers to the action, not the NOUN

Another point, if "With California expecting..." is the short of "With California which expects....", this is impossible as California cannot expect anything itself, it's not human being to expect anything.

Besides, "the administration's concern has grown increasingly", I think this subject not make sense, a concern cannot increase about something, the subject must be "The administration", not the concern.



B. With California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about
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With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about public health and safety there.


A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about

B. With California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts on as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for as much as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about


IMHO (A) for the hihglighted errors in the options ...

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Hi mikemcgarry,

Though I understand why A is correct, I would require a bit of your help here.

1. I wanted to understand the difference between the usage of expected in A vs expecting and B.
2. Also, is "to be seeing" as mentioned in C idiomatic ?

Thanks in advance :-)

Dear Poorvasha,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

First of all, the "to be seeing" in (C) is train wreck wrong. This is very specifically a trap for all the non-native speakers who do not understand the difference between the present and the present progressive. We use the progressive tenses when we want to emphasis that the action is in the process of taking place: we are emphasizing the action as an ongoing activity. The "seeing" will happen, but we are not concerned with the actual performance of this activity. The progressive tense is utterly useless in this context.

The construction in (A) is a some rare and extremely sophisticated construction. The construction in (B) is a typical mistake pattern. See:
with + [noun] + [participle] on GMAT Sentence Correction

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Hi RonPurewal , answer A has with + clause, is it OK? I thought that usage of with is unacceptable?


^^ Nope, not a whole clause.

The issue here is that you're mistakenly processing "expected" — which is a modifier here — as a verb.

As is so often the case, you MUST establish the INTENDED MEANING of the sentence BEFORE trying to process its grammar!
This sentence is NOT saying that "California expected to see" something. In other words, the sentence is not intended to say that California itself had "expectations"; that interpretation would be nonsense, since the state of California itself does not have a single sentient mind.
Rather, the intended meaning is that California WAS expected to see something. "Expected" is therefore a modifier here.
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B, C & E is out just by seeing the "as much as 30 days" since much is for uncountable nouns.

I wasnt too comfortable with A but D is way off. So A it is.

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With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about public health and safety there

A. With California expected to see severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as many as 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about

B. With California expecting to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts for as much as 30 days, the administration's concern has grown increasingly about

C. As California is expected to be seeing severe electricity shortfalls and perhaps blackouts on as much as 30 days this summer, the administration's concern is increasing for

D. Insofar as California is expected to see severe electricity shortfalls this summer, and there will possibly be blackouts as many as 30 days, the administration has increasing concern about

E. Insofar as California expects to see severe electricity shortfalls and the possibility of blackouts for 30 days this summer, the administration has grown increasingly concerned about

2/2/1 split..
I was thinking that the use of ''grown & increasingly'' is redundant....crossed A out ...and marked D.
Looks like the usage of idiom ''insofar as'' is not correct in D ?


in b, has grown about dose not exist in english
in c, concern is increasing for means concern is increasing for the purpose of. this meaing is not logic
in d and e, insofar as means "if" showing a conditional. this meaning is not logic here. in the context that california expect something, persons concern . this meaning is more logic
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Experts please comment why A is correct?
Is nt it a construction
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"Expected to do something" is the correct format here. So "B" and "E" are out. "C" has an apostrophe with "administration" which is not preferred provided there is a better ans choice. Moreover "concern for" and "concerned about" do not imply the same meaning. In "D" the part of the sentence from "there will ....blackouts "is not an additional information or an insertible/removable phrase. Hence it cannot be place between two commas. Its the main part of the sentence.Additionally "increasing concern" is also wrong in "D". By elimination we are left with one answer which is "A." The answers which had increase
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