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1.With its abundance of noun inflections, Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.
(A) is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English
(B) are compact when they are written, but they can lengthen considerably when they are translated in English
(C) is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when being translated into English
(D) are compact when written but can lengthen considerably in English translation(D)
(E) is compact when it is written but can lengthen considerably when translated in English

I went for A but OA is B ....Please explain..


common pattern for GMAT SC is
ONE OF + plural noun + THAT + plural verb


Yes, D is the best answer
This is a common pattern on GMAT SC:
SINGULAR NOUN of NOUNS that PLURAL VERB
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She is one of the presidents who have high approval ratings.
D is parallel and more compact… B is not parallel. LANGUAGES that are compact… but can lengthen (here ARE and
CAN LENGTHEN are parallel verbs).

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Languages are compact when written
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Languages can lengthen considerably in English translation. <<< does it make sense.

I think it is nonsensical to say a language can lengthen. An idea/message in written form can be lengthen but language seems weird.
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Languages are compact when written
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Languages can lengthen considerably in English translation. <<< does it make sense.

I think it is nonsensical to say a language can lengthen. An idea/message in written form can be lengthen but language seems weird.

Agree..
D doesn't make sense...
The best is A, but it incorrectly refers to one language (is) and not all (are)

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ok so is the key takeaway the point that in the clause- " Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English" - the 'to be' verb refers to the immediately preceding modifier i.e. several Germanic languages rather than Icelandic ?

Furthermore if the phrase had commas like - Icelandic, one of several Germanic languages that ,is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.

Would 'is' have been right ?

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Does " in English translation" make sense?

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Hey can an expert explain why D is preferred over B?

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With its abundance of noun inflections, Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.

(A) is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English
(B) are compact when they are written, but they can lengthen considerably when they are translated in English
(C) is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when being translated into English
(D) are compact when written but can lengthen considerably in English translation
(E) is compact when it is written but can lengthen considerably when translated in English

Pls. explain.



one of + Plural noun + that/who + Plural verb

A, C, E - incorrect - is wrong - several Germanic languages

B - incorrect - wordy. Further there is no need of first they - when they are written, but they (redundant)

ans is D
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B is not parallel. We want languages that *are* compact but *can* lengthen (both starred words are parallel verbs). "They" isn't just wordy or unneeded--it breaks parallelism. Also, "translated in English" is not idiomatic. Something can be translated *into* English, or it can exist in an English translation, but we don't translate "in English." It makes it appear as if the entire translation takes place within one language, which doesn't make sense.

D fixes both of these issues.
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With its abundance of noun inflections, Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.

(A) is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English
(B) are compact when they are written, but they can lengthen considerably when they are translated in English
(C) is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when being translated into English
(D) are compact when written but can lengthen considerably in English translation
(E) is compact when it is written but can lengthen considerably when translated in English

Pls. explain.


in b, "they can' are problematic
that are but that can be
is paralel
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I will also go with B.
"Germanic languages" is plural. We should left only two options B and D.
for B, Translated in English is more preferred that English translation.

I hope make sense for choosing B.

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Cant understand why B is wrong? Is english translation same as "translated into english"?
Is there a parallelism issue with B e.g. "that are compact" should go with but "that can lengthen" ?

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Cant understand why B is wrong? Is english translation same as "translated into english"?
Is there a parallelism issue with B e.g. "that are compact" should go with but "that can lengthen" ?


B and D both are grammatically alright. D is considered better because it conveys the same idea with fewer words (concision).

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one of several Germanic languages that <plural verb-are>

D over B

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written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.
A. is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English
B. are compact when they are written, but they can lengthen considerably when they are translated in English
C. is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when being translated into English
D. are compact when written but can lengthen considerably in English translation
E. is compact when it is written but can lengthen considerably when translated in English

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With its abundance of noun inflections, Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when
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one of several X that (plural)

Hence, 'are' should follow 'that'.

A,C and E are out.

B uses a lot of 'they', which is not required and wordy.

B. are compact when they are written, but they can lengthen considerably when they are translated in English


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GK_Gmat wrote:
With its abundance of noun inflections, Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.

(A) is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English
(B) are compact when they are written, but they can lengthen considerably when they are translated in English
(C) is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when being translated into English
(D) are compact when written but can lengthen considerably in English translation
(E) is compact when it is written but can lengthen considerably when translated in English

Pls. explain.


Eventhough A has the perfect parallelism "..when written...when translated ..." , "is" is incorrect, isn't it?
"that" clause modifies "several Germanic languages" rather than "one" ...otherwises, what's the point to put "several Germanic languages" here?

Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong ...


I agree with Lexie...."are" shud be present.
The pronouns who, that, and which become singular or plural according to the noun directly in front of them. The pronoun is the subject of the verb in the middle of the sentence.
and between "B" and "D"....B used "they" redundantly 2 times. so its incorrect.
My vote for "D".
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U mentioned that The pronouns who, that, and which become singular or plural according to the noun directly in front of them.

Can you please help me find the antecedent for that in below sentence:
The effect of ocean white caps on global warming is one of the many aspects of the ocean environment that are not yet incorporated in any detail into the computer models used to predict how rising greenhouse gas concentrations could affect climate.

As per your statement, The antecedent for that should be ocean environment (sing), but the verb after that is are (plu). Help me in understanding this.

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D is the best answer
This is a common pattern on GMAT SC: SINGULAR NOUN of NOUNS that PLURAL VERB.
For example:
She is one of the presidents who have high approval ratings.
D is parallel and more compact...
B is not parallel. LANGUAGES that are compact... but can lengthen (here ARE and CAN LENGTHEN are parallel verbs).

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With its abundance of noun inflections, Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.
A. is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English
B. are compact when they are written, but they can lengthen considerably when they are translated in English
C. is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when being translated into English
D. are compact when written but can lengthen considerably in English translation
E. is compact when it is written but can lengthen considerably when translated in English


Of course, A, C, and E can be dropped for SV number agreement fault. B can be dropped primarily due to its lack of concision. and in a lesser way, the pronoun 'they' may be argued to ambiguously refer to the inflections rather than the languages.D is the chosen answer as per the conventions of sub-verb number agreement.

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The “one of the” constructs (X = the students)
Remember the norms about the "one of the" constructs".
1. One of Xs (Xs=students)........................takes a singular verb
One of the students has secured centum (without the relative pronoun that / who etc.)

Since 1989, after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans, who have had to acclimate to an entirely different political system.

A. after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified German, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans

B. after the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural terms as well as those of economic assimilation, were the former East Germans

C. when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the reunified Germany's most problematic ethnic groups, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, was the former East Germans

D. when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, has been the former East Germans

E. after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in both terms of cultural and economic assimilation, have been the former East Germans

Ans: D.

2. One of Xs (Xs = the students) that/who.......takes a plural verb
One of the students that/ who have secured centum (with the relative pronoun that/ who etc)

Twenty-two feet long and 10 feet in diameter, the AM-1 is one of the many new satellites that is a part of 15-years effort of subjecting the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces to detailed scrutiny from space.

A. satellites that is a part of 15 years effort of subjecting the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces
B. satellites, which is a part of a 15-year effort to subject how Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces interact
C. satellites, part of 15 years effort of subjecting how Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces are interacting
D. satellites that are part of an effort for 15 years that has subjected the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces
E. satellites that are part of a 15-year effort to subject the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, ocean, and land surfaces

Ans: E.
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With its abundance of noun inflections, Icelandic is one of several Germanic languages that is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English.
A. is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when translated into English
B. are compact when they are written, but they can lengthen considerably when they are translated in English
C. is compact when written but can lengthen considerably when being translated into English
D. are compact when written but can lengthen considerably in English translation
E. is compact when it is written but can lengthen considerably when translated in English


Of course, A, C, and E can be dropped for SV number agreement fault. B can be dropped primarily due to its lack of concision. and in a lesser way, the pronoun 'they' may be argued to ambiguously refer to the inflections rather than the languages.D is the chosen answer as per the conventions of sub-verb number agreement.

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The “one of the” constructs (X = the students)
Remember the norms about the "one of the" constructs".
1. One of Xs (Xs=students)........................takes a singular verb
One of the students has secured centum (without the relative pronoun that / who etc.)

Since 1989, after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans, who have had to acclimate to an entirely different political system.

A. after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified German, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans

B. after the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural terms as well as those of economic assimilation, were the former East Germans

C. when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the reunified Germany's most problematic ethnic groups, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, was the former East Germans

D. when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, has been the former East Germans

E. after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in both terms of cultural and economic assimilation, have been the former East Germans

Ans: D.

2. One of Xs (Xs = the students) that/who.......takes a plural verb
One of the students that/ who have secured centum (with the relative pronoun that/ who etc)

Twenty-two feet long and 10 feet in diameter, the AM-1 is one of the many new satellites that is a part of 15-years effort of subjecting the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces to detailed scrutiny from space.

A. satellites that is a part of 15 years effort of subjecting the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces
B. satellites, which is a part of a 15-year effort to subject how Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces interact
C. satellites, part of 15 years effort of subjecting how Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces are interacting
D. satellites that are part of an effort for 15 years that has subjected the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces
E. satellites that are part of a 15-year effort to subject the interactions of Earth’s atmosphere, ocean, and land surfaces

Ans: E.


Sir,

In the question, "Since 1989,....", Are we using present perfect since the question is stating the problem that present "since 1989"..?

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