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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer
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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer



IMO A).
Have you gone through Manhattan SC (Odds and Ends) book? - It is clearly mentioned in this book about this trap.

Be careful with unit nouns.......such as dollars or gallons....By their nature they are countable (example: one dollar, two dollar etc) and so they work with most of the countable modifiers. However, unit nous represents the uncountable quantities: money, volume (one money, two money etc).

As a result we use "less" with unit nouns when we really want to indicate something about underlying quantity.

We have less than twenty dollars.........ex.

If we write we have fewer than twenty dollars that means (20 piece of papers)....so whenever underlying quantity is uncountable then use less than (especially in case of money and volume).

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Should be A

Both 'Less than' and 'fewer' is rightly used.

Less than is used to show decrease in value and lower than in physical level. For example water level is lower than

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Disagree with the explanation given:

This is not a matter of idiomatic usage. When a collection of units acts as a unified whole, it is considered one, singular unit.

Consider for example the following two sentences:

Four hours is a long time.

v.s.

The four hours were excruciating. (Though it is hoped that they will not be if you practice enough :wink: )

The first "four hours" act one unit, and the second "four hours" are being considered individually.

In most of the SC problems, # + Unit (time, currency, weight, distance, etc.) = SINGULAR (and therefore non-count).

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Hi seekmba,

As nightwing79 posted above, the difference between less and lesser is not grammatical-- both words are the comparative. However, they have different meanings. "Lesser" means inferior, while "less" relates to quantity. Thus, meaning, not parallelism is the issue in C.

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By looking at AND i thought this issue is also testing parallelism. Are less and fewer parallel?


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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

[highlight](A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer[/highlight]
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer


It's not a parallelism it's testing for here but a less than vs. fewer choice.... some posts here have suggested C - but if you insert option C into the sentence you can see this is wrong... "With total sales lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer"... (ouch!).

'Lesser' is rarely used but occasionally seen in a comparitive sense as in 'the least of' (e.g. "it is the lesser of two evils"), or occasionally appearing in names of animals "the lesser spotted woodpecker".)

A common GMAT trap is to use money in SC - you need to be careful when considering whether the object proposed is countable or not. 'Money' is'nt usually used as a countable noun - it's not correct to say "one money", "two moneys (or monies)" etc - similarly we would use "less money," not "fewer money."

That said, we would use 'fewer' when counting (one dollar, two dollars) so a correct comparative term is "fewer dollars". eg: "I have less money than you", "I have fewer dollars than you"

Countable nouns can also be used to represent quantitave measurements (as we find in this question) – consider sums of money, periods of time and distance. Here, we'd see that whilst minutes / dollars / miles etc are countable, the correct form would be "less than ten minutes left", "less than a hundred dollars" and "less than three miles" Remember, here we are referring to quantities, not countable units.

Answer 'A' correctly assigns the property "of less than three hundred thousand dollars" to "total sales", and recognises new subscribers as countable, using "fewer". :)
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IMO E
countable-->few

both are countable nouns

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A?

sales refers to an amount of money (e.g. i have less money than you do)

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A is OA.
But why not C? C looks okay to me.

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Not sure whether lesser than is apt term here. Lesser is used an adj. For ex: Lesser quantity.

Again, there may be better explanation for your question.

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A is OA.
But why not C? C looks okay to me.

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Thanks for the info . My question was more regarding 'less' vs 'lesser'
But I think lesser should be followed by a noun...makes sense.

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Economist wrote:
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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer



IMO A).
Have you gone through Manhattan SC (Odds and Ends) book? - It is clearly mentioned in this book about this trap.

Be careful with unit nouns.......such as dollars or gallons....By their nature they are countable (example: one dollar, two dollar etc) and so they work with most of the countable modifiers. However, unit nous represents the uncountable quantities: money, volume (one money, two money etc).

As a result we use "less" with unit nouns when we really want to indicate something about underlying quantity.

We have less than twenty dollars.........ex.

If we write we have fewer than twenty dollars that means (20 piece of papers)....so whenever underlying quantity is uncountable then use less than (especially in case of money and volume).

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Just want to clarify you cannot use "lesser" I think even you have noun after that...it is not idiomatic. For comparision between two items we still use "less" (less than).....lesser than is not valid as per my understanding.

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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer
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I think the original sentence is correct in all aspects. My choice for answer is A.

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straight A. Read up on differences between few / less / more / many. All other choices use these forms incorrectly.

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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer

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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer


Using the comparision rules, only options A and C stand as contendors. Both A and C use the correct comparitive forms 'Less' and 'Lesser' respectively. However, if parallelism has to be taken into account then option C stands as the right choice as it uses LESSER.....FEWER construction.

Is my reasoning correct? please suggest.

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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer


Using the comparision rules, only options A and C stand as contendors. Both A and C use the correct comparitive forms 'Less' and 'Lesser' respectively. However, if parallelism has to be taken into account then option C stands as the right choice as it uses LESSER.....FEWER construction.

Is my reasoning correct? please suggest.


A straight. total sales of + less, few usage will get us the answer
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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer


Using the comparision rules, only options A and C stand as contendors. Both A and C use the correct comparitive forms 'Less' and 'Lesser' respectively. However, if parallelism has to be taken into account then option C stands as the right choice as it uses LESSER.....FEWER construction.

Is my reasoning correct? please suggest.



I a bit of quick research lesser is used in context of degrees (kinda like portion-like) otherwise - less is preferable...

For example ....it is "lesser evil"

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A is correct
sale is uncountable so less than is okay and subscriber is fewer as they are countable

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A straight forward one. OA is A: less for non- count (water, air etc)
fewer for counts: people; knives, plates etc
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