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Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of

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Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family, the shared genetic inheritance, or accident, that enables musicians to make music.

(A) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family
(B) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lays a sense of family
(C) A sense of family lies inside of the boundaries of artistic rivalry
(D) A family sense lies within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries
(E) Within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries lays a family sense

is the sentence inversion one? if not, then what??????
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15 Jun 2005, 22:00

B and E are out because of the use of lays
C is out becuase of the usage of "inside of" which is not a correct idiom
In D "artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries " dosen't sound correct.
Hence A is the only correct choice
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16 Jun 2005, 06:50
A is indeed a subject- verb inversion and seems the best.
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16 Jun 2005, 08:53
A is good

Lay and Lie can be confusing

Lay means to put something down and lie means to rest ...

B and E are definetly out

C inside (of) the boundaries (of) ----WEIRD
D is plain nonsense and just does not fit..

A it is..
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16 Jun 2005, 09:39
I will go with A also.

Within the boundaries of X lies A B and C that enables.
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16 Jun 2005, 23:02
Definitely A.

lies is better. A and C remains.
A is more parallel than C: lies X, Y ...
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17 Jun 2005, 19:36
OA is A...
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17 Jun 2005, 21:49
HIMALAYA wrote:
Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family, the shared genetic inheritance, or accident, that enables musicians to make music.

(A) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family

Reasons that (A) is correct:

- The trailing phrase "the shared genetic inhertience..." should immediately follow what it modifies, and what it modifies is "sense of family". A & B get this right.

- lies is the correct verb, not lays

- a couple of issues related to good, effective expression: "sense of family" is right, "family sense" is wrong;
and "within the boundaries lies" is preferable in this metaphorical context to "x lies inside of the boundaries".
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28 Jun 2007, 14:02
Supercat wrote:
HIMALAYA wrote:
Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family, the shared genetic inheritance, or accident, that enables musicians to make music.

(A) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family

Reasons that (A) is correct:

- The trailing phrase "the shared genetic inhertience..." should immediately follow what it modifies, and what it modifies is "sense of family". A & B get this right.

- lies is the correct verb, not lays

- a couple of issues related to good, effective expression: "sense of family" is right, "family sense" is wrong;
and "within the boundaries lies" is preferable in this metaphorical context to "x lies inside of the boundaries".

the "million dollar question" is why is lie correct over lay?

i know that lay requires a physical object. ie. lay down that gun.

but why is lie correct without using the POE in this question? What is the concept behind it?
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28 Jun 2007, 22:29
HIMALAYA wrote:
Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family, the shared genetic inheritance, or accident, that enables musicians to make music.

(A) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family
(B) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lays a sense of family
(C) A sense of family lies inside of the boundaries of artistic rivalry
(D) A family sense lies within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries
(E) Within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries lays a family sense

is the sentence inversion one? if not, then what??????

the verb and it's forms are :

Lay(to put) laid laid

please lay the book on the table.

Lie(to recline) lay lain.

she lies on the bed.

In the given sentence, no one is asking to put something somewhere, but is actually addressing the fact that the sense of family lies within the boundaries of .... I hope it makes it clear.
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29 Jun 2007, 08:37
shoonya wrote:
HIMALAYA wrote:
Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family, the shared genetic inheritance, or accident, that enables musicians to make music.

(A) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family
(B) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lays a sense of family
(C) A sense of family lies inside of the boundaries of artistic rivalry
(D) A family sense lies within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries
(E) Within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries lays a family sense

is the sentence inversion one? if not, then what??????

the verb and it's forms are :

Lay(to put) laid laid

please lay the book on the table.

Lie(to recline) lay lain.

she lies on the bed.

In the given sentence, no one is asking to put something somewhere, but is actually addressing the fact that the sense of family lies within the boundaries of .... I hope it makes it clear.

recline = rests?

In the given sentence, no one is asking to put something somewhere, but is actually addressing the fact that the sense of family rests within the boundaries of ....
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29 Jun 2007, 09:03
bmwhype2 wrote:
shoonya wrote:
HIMALAYA wrote:
Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family, the shared genetic inheritance, or accident, that enables musicians to make music.

(A) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family
(B) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lays a sense of family
(C) A sense of family lies inside of the boundaries of artistic rivalry
(D) A family sense lies within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries
(E) Within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries lays a family sense

is the sentence inversion one? if not, then what??????

the verb and it's forms are :

Lay(to put) laid laid

please lay the book on the table.

Lie(to recline) lay lain.

she lies on the bed.

In the given sentence, no one is asking to put something somewhere, but is actually addressing the fact that the sense of family lies within the boundaries of .... I hope it makes it clear.

recline = rests?

In the given sentence, no one is asking to put something somewhere, but is actually addressing the fact that the sense of family rests within the boundaries of ....

well, english is not my mother tongue and i started learning the alphabets when I was 11.. so it confuses me as much as it is confusing you now.. but, in this sentence, lies means rests. It can't be lays..

anyone with a better explanation?
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30 Jun 2007, 13:23
bmwhype2 wrote:
shoonya wrote:
HIMALAYA wrote:
Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family, the shared genetic inheritance, or accident, that enables musicians to make music.

(A) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family
(B) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lays a sense of family
(C) A sense of family lies inside of the boundaries of artistic rivalry
(D) A family sense lies within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries
(E) Within artistic rivalryâ€™s boundaries lays a family sense

is the sentence inversion one? if not, then what??????

the verb and it's forms are :

Lay(to put) laid laid

please lay the book on the table.

Lie(to recline) lay lain.

she lies on the bed.

In the given sentence, no one is asking to put something somewhere, but is actually addressing the fact that the sense of family lies within the boundaries of .... I hope it makes it clear.

recline = rests?

In the given sentence, no one is asking to put something somewhere, but is actually addressing the fact that the sense of family rests within the boundaries of ....

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28 Feb 2011, 22:19
Can any grammar guru comment on validity of first reason given below?
<>- The trailing phrase "the shared genetic inhertience..." should immediately follow what it modifies, and what it modifies is "sense of family". A & B get this right.<>

Supercat wrote:
HIMALAYA wrote:
Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family, the shared genetic inheritance, or accident, that enables musicians to make music.

(A) Within the boundaries of artistic rivalry lies a sense of family

Reasons that (A) is correct:

- The trailing phrase "the shared genetic inhertience..." should immediately follow what it modifies, and what it modifies is "sense of family". A & B get this right.

- lies is the correct verb, not lays

- a couple of issues related to good, effective expression: "sense of family" is right, "family sense" is wrong;
and "within the boundaries lies" is preferable in this metaphorical context to "x lies inside of the boundaries".

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01 Mar 2011, 00:35
lies implies reclined. lay means to put something somewhere.

hence the correct answer is A
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