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Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

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One more B.

"A trend that will ultimately place" is correct usage. Trend will cause something to happen in future. Simple future tense is better than continuous placing.

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Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

please explain your reasoning ...


3/2 Rule: "placing" V.S "place" , "place" is right --> rule out A & D
"Which" after the comma refers to women --> wrong --> rule out C & E
The choice left is B


can you elaborate more on your elimination process between "placing" V.S "place" ?

I thought "placing" also can fit here ( it will be a absolute phrase -- just eliminate BE verb, and that absolute can be modifier).. I think absolute phrase is also correct (grammatically) here ...

appreciate if you can explain a bit more on this ..


Hi,
You are right that "placing" is correct in grammar but it distorts the meaning. The trend is not yet established, so you can't use "placing" here. In other words, the trend is the result of "women are expected...", and the first phase uses present tense --> the result should be in future tense ^ ^

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B for me

C D E are clearly out.
There are two reasons why I eliminate A
First, expect ..., a trend - should be in a future tense.
a trend placing = a trend that places = present tense

Second - I am more comfortable with The majority ... than Women ...
Women ..., a trend - a trend modify women??
The majority ..., a trend - a trend correctly refers to the majority, which can be a trend.

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oopsss i got it. It can be plural :-)
According to manh SC guide, if one mean the many individual parts of the totality then use a plural verb....for example :" the majority of the students ARE..."

If one means the totality itself then use singular verb . eg " the student majority IS....

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+1 B

If you want to refer to each individual in that majority, you have to use ARE.

If you want to refer to that majority as a whole, use IS.
For example: The majority of the congress is conformed by Republicans.

I think that "it" in D and E is not wrong. I eliminated D because I think that the meaning in B is better. "Ultimately" refers to something in the future.
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Why D is wrong?

I already ask this question in the manhantant forum and beatthegmat forum, and get no full explanation.

in D, "trend placing" is correct because "trend placing" mean

"trend that will place"
"trend that place"
"trend that is placing"
any tense.

that is why "placing" is called non definite. This means no time.

any one know why D is wrong, pls, speak. thank you.

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hey noboru,

i'll help u on this.
i had read in manhattan SC guide:

The words majority, minority, and plurality are either singular or plural, depending on their
context. If you want to indicate the many individual parts of the totality, use a plural verb.
If you want to indicate the totality itself then use a singular verb form.


The majority of the students in this class ARE hard workers.(plural)
In the Senate, the majorjty HAS coalesced into a unified voting block.(singular)


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"The Majority of Students" is similar to " The number of Students" , in this case, we take the subject from the pre-position "of Students", hence plural verb - an exceptinal case according to MGMAT SC. Unlike "A number of Students" or which should be singular verb.

For me B

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Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

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here is my reasoning. I will go with B.
A: Women are -->plural refer to majority of students which is not correct. Also in second clause has a missing verb. placing is not a verb.
B. majority is referred to women which agrees with SV quantity. 2nd phrase has a subject that has a verb place.
C. which refers to woman but its the trend not more women entering law school--a trend that will place women in leadership positions.
D. it is expected that --> wordy and nonsense
E. what is expected from women?

so for me logical answer is B. Whats the OA?
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The error is w.r.t tense.
Women are expected to be the majority, (a future course of action), this trend "will place" women in top positions...

so
A Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
is wrong
and
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
remains

w.r.t number agreement...
consider the following sentence.
The majority of students entering law school this fall are women. (using is instead will be wrong)
Or to put it simply, the majority are women.
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Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

please explain your reasoning ...


A - Verb-ing modifier 'placing' takes on present tense. It should be in future tense as it talks about a future event.
B - Correct.
C - 'which' refers to 'women' and does not make sense.
D - Same ver-ing tense error as (A)
E - same as (C)
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Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.

A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing

B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place

C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place

D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing

E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place


A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing - should be students, eliminate.

B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place - Correct.

C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place - the statement which is referring to the women not the effect of the situation, eliminate.

D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing - tenses are wrong placing refers to present tense but the rest of the sentence is referring to future tense of what will happen in the fall, eliminate.

E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place - incorrect use of plural, eliminate.

If any of my ideas about why any of the answers are incorrect please share your thoughts.
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Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.

A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing

B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place

C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place

D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing

E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place



A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing -- student is wrongly singular

B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place -- Correct

C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place -- wrong use of which

D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing -- wordy, wrong use of cont. tense

E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

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Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

please explain your reasoning ...


3/2 Rule: "placing" V.S "place" , "place" is right --> rule out A & D
"Which" after the comma refers to women --> wrong --> rule out C & E
The choice left is B


Can you please explain how to know which word before COMMA is referred by the word "WHICH". It is based on your understanding of the sentence or there are some rule or tricks or method to figure out the correct antecedent
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There is definitely a rule: it is popularly called the modifier touch rule. The modifier starting with which should generally touch the noun it modifies, i.e. "which" should generally refer to the word just preceding "which".

The dog likes the cat, which is black.

Clearly which refers to cat (as per modifier touch rule - the modifier which is black touches cat.)

However there are some exceptions to modifier touch rule. For example another mission critical prepositional modifier may come in between a modifier and the noun it refers to.

The king of Trueland, who has never lied, died yesterday.

The modifier who has never lied refers to the noun king. Ideally the modifier should be placed adjacent to king. But in this case the separation is acceptable because of Trueland is a mission critical modifier that has to come in between - there is no better way to position the prepositional modifier of Trueland anywhere else in the sentence.

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The answer choices have, to say broadly, two groups - 1- place and 2 - placing

2- "placing" is wrong, because the meaning here needs non-continuous use of verb "PLACE", because "placing women ......" is a figurative clause.

Now only B tells about the "a trend" which is the centre of the meaning of this sentence.

So correct answer is B.

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A nice practice question that puts you into quite a few splits to wade through.
1. What should be the subject ? Women or ‘the majority” Considering that the modifier trend has to fall back on some evolving action, women are is too passive and hence is no equivalent to the more dynamic factor of something trending. So we will drop A.
2. to choose between ‘a trend ‘ and ‘which’. 'This ‘is blatantly incorrect in modifying women and the fall, both inappropriate. Therefore, we will dump C and E.
3. To choose between ‘placing’ and ‘that will place’ obviously, since the effect of the trend is going to be in the future, that will place is more appropriate than the tenseless participle ‘placing’. Therefore, we will drop A, and D.
Ultimately, what survives the drop list? Only B.
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"__ing" constructions adopt the same timeframe as the sentence to which they're attached. How do we find this timeframe. By seeing the main verb of the sentence or by seeing the time it is referring to.

Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

Why is D wrong. How do we find out the timeframe of "Ultimately placing" (by seeing "it is expected" or by seeing "students entering this fall will be women".

And can we use comma+ing to say something about future such as "he will clean the house, making a lot of noise"...is this correct?

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In answer choice D, expected that is wrong. "expect to" is the correct idiom.
also placing in D indicates that trend is established but it is not like that.


I just quoted the question in order to understand the underlying principle.
For option D, Ron Purewal said:
the main clause is explicitly situated within this fall.

the modifier "placing..." suggests that these women will be placed into positions of leadership this fall. that's wrong (it will take decades for them to get there), so this choice is incorrect.

So My doubt is:
How do we find out the timeframe of "Ultimately placing" (by seeing "it is expected" or by seeing "students entering this fall will be women"?
Not only for this question but in general.

P.S. I dont think that the option is wrong because of "it is expected".
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Check out Ron's explanation again. (https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t1862.html) He says that D suffers the same problem as A: by using "placing," it implies that this placement is already happening. This is inherent to the modifier, and doesn't require us to pick out any subtleties from the preceding clause. B fixes this by using the future tense: "will (ultimately) place."
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[quote="pramitmishra0607"][quote="hotshot02"][quote="pramitmishra0607"]"__ing" constructions adopt the same timeframe as the sentence to which they're attached. How do we find this timeframe. By seeing the main verb of the sentence or by seeing the time it is referring to.

Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A. Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C. The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D. It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E. It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

nothing wrong with D.
something wrong with B.
in B, "entering" take the time of "are" so, it is in present but "this fall" show future. this is not fit. no logic. wrong.
in D
"placing" take time of "will be" so, it is in future time . this is logic. no thing wrong.

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