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# Written tests sold by ETS

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02 Aug 2003, 16:18
I just paid 15 to 20 dollars for a written test that I downloaded from the ETS website. I don't know how helpful it will be because of course it is not adaptive and is a ten year old written version. But it might be helpful for those of you that are looking to estimate the number that you can miss in order to obtain a particular score. At the same time it might be misleading if you hold too much stock in these numbers since I know their scoring methods are now different (since it's CAT). I know I know, they use a complex algorithm, please spare me. Neither you nor Princeton know what that algorithm is. Anyway, other testing companies that try to emulate their scoring methods do so arbitrarily, and without much basis I hear. This is why I would give a ten year old version of a written test by the same company as good a chance of being helpful. Anyway, it's worth a look.
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02 Aug 2003, 18:44
pkatz wrote:
I just paid 15 to 20 dollars for a written test that I downloaded from the ETS website. I don't know how helpful it will be because of course it is not adaptive and is a ten year old written version. But it might be helpful for those of you that are looking to estimate the number that you can miss in order to obtain a particular score. At the same time it might be misleading if you hold too much stock in these numbers since I know their scoring methods are now different (since it's CAT). I know I know, they use a complex algorithm, please spare me. Neither you nor Princeton know what that algorithm is. Anyway, other testing companies that try to emulate their scoring methods do so arbitrarily, and without much basis I hear. This is why I would give a ten year old version of a written test by the same company as good a chance of being helpful. Anyway, it's worth a look.

Thanks a lot for the clues; if you are interested, here is what others thought about these tests:

http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=921

I know that this review is not very positive, so I hope, I don't discourage you but rather help you see your standing.

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02 Aug 2003, 22:37
Yes, I see that most of the people who have reviewed this disagree with me. That is partly because I have not looked at the materials (it was the idea of an old test that attracted my attention). I downloaded it about twelve hours ago, believing that it would be an actual version of a real test. What I have appears authentic but may end up being useless if it is just OG questions. Anyway I appreciated the warning about copyright laws, which is why I was particularly cautious when talking about specific content (easy to do when I haven't answered but five or so questions). I would like to apologize for endorsing a product that others do not hold in high esteem. It was the idea of having an old test with explicit scoring information that I found attractive. I will look at it more carefully and give a more thorough review so that I can be more helpful. That is of course unless everyone already knows about this product and does not need an outdated second opinion. In addition, what I said about believing it to be a decent indicator would certainly not apply if these were questions pooled from the easy section of OG.
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03 Aug 2003, 00:55
pkatz wrote:
Yes, I see that most of the people who have reviewed this disagree with me. That is partly because I have not looked at the materials (it was the idea of an old test that attracted my attention). I downloaded it about twelve hours ago, believing that it would be an actual version of a real test. What I have appears authentic but may end up being useless if it is just OG questions. Anyway I appreciated the warning about copyright laws, which is why I was particularly cautious when talking about specific content (easy to do when I haven't answered but five or so questions). I would like to apologize for endorsing a product that others do not hold in high esteem. It was the idea of having an old test with explicit scoring information that I found attractive. I will look at it more carefully and give a more thorough review so that I can be more helpful. That is of course unless everyone already knows about this product and does not need an outdated second opinion. In addition, what I said about believing it to be a decent indicator would certainly not apply if these were questions pooled from the easy section of OG.

No problem with endorsing - no product is ideal for everyone and vice versa. In addition, one person cannot give an objective opinion about the item; there will always be people who liked/disliked the product and only after so many of them can one make up his/her mind. I do attempt to encourage as much diversity and as much alternative opinions as possible. I personally try to go against the orhodox solution/opinion simply becasue the general opinion is not necessarily right for me. That was one of the reason I ignored the rankings of the Bschools, which was not super-smart, I have to admit.

Your idea is obviously good to get the tests and work on the ORIGINAL questions rather than those of Kaplan or Princeton, but it seems ETS/GMAC decided to make it not as good as it should have been.

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03 Aug 2003, 00:55
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