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New post 19 Oct 2010, 20:27
Thanks for the explaination. Even I chose E and now I know why it is wrong. Thanks!!!

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(D) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits.
(E) Young female dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits because they desire to be as thin as possible.


Is it possible that option E does not have word ballet, therefore it is wrong. Can anybody confirm it?

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New post 21 Oct 2010, 06:16
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urgh.. yes this is sooo GMAC question.
I am at work -can't point to the question- but there is an exact type question in OG12.

redoing OG over and over again is the correct way to go for SC!


You could surely be right in your approach of doing OG 12 again and again... but i would like to share my experience , may be someone would benefit at the cost of my experience :)

I did the same with OG 10.. kept on studying the same again and again... but trust me it doesn't improve actual efficiency of SC much.... it just improved the accuracy of doing SC problems of OG 10 ( in my case ) only.

Later on, i decided to use additional resources for a few days with daily revision of fundamentals and started using OG 11 for evaluating my actual efficiency e.g doing some 15/20 questions with difference of 2 days.

I repeat that your approach is not at all wrong ( nothing to offend on your approach ) , but the later approach adopted helped me in evaluating my SC skills overall not only with OG 10 only.

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(D) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits.
(E) Young female dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits because they desire to be as thin as possible.


Is it possible that option E does not have word ballet, therefore it is wrong. Can anybody confirm it?


No, it has nothing do with ballet only.
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+1 D

Its pronouns are not ambiguous.
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In D they doesn't have a clear antecedent.
E is crystal clear.Hence OA.
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i think E is not incorrect for a reason like pronoun ambiguity.
had D not been there E would have been the answer. But D is more precise than E
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Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.

(A) Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.
(B) Good eating habits sometimes fail to be maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts caused by desiring to be as thin as possible.
(C) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, good eating habits are sometimes not maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts.
(D) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits.
(E) Young female dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits because they desire to be as thin as possible.


Answer: D

How I see it is........

In GMAT, it is okay to begin a sentence with 'because'. Since this question has two options beginning with 'because', there is a high chance the question is trying to test your knowledge regarding starting a sentence with 'because'. We bear this in mind.

First strike: it should be 'you fail ......because...' ; 'your failure ...is caused by...'.
Both option A and B have 'fail...caused by...' ---> eliminate A and B.

Second strike: misplaced modifier in C. 'young female ballet dancers' should come after comma. ---> eliminate C

Third Strike: Between D and E, I would have gone for E if I had not kept this in mind.

As a check, the causality does seem to be more clearly stated in D than it is in E.

So, answer: D :)
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If there is no typo, then is NOT E changing the meaning since it talks about 'young female dancers' while all other options have an 'young female ballet dancers'? Can we limit/expand scope of a statement?
I hope I am not thinking too much! IMO D!
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I took about 5 min to decide between D and E and selected D. In D modifing clause is attached to the noun it modify
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Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.

(A) Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.
(B) Good eating habits sometimes fail to be maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts caused by desiring to be as thin as possible.
(C) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, good eating habits are sometimes not maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts.
(D) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits.
(E) Young female dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits because they desire to be as thin as possible.

[Reveal] Spoiler: OE
Kaplan says answer is D, I think the answer is E. Here's what Kaplan has to say, which I don't understand:
The modifier is misplaced here. What is caused by the desire to be as thin as possible? Not good eating habits, though that's the impression you could get from (A), and not the ballet dancers and gymnasts, though that's the impression you could get from (B). And who or what desires to be as thin as possible? Not good eating habits, though you could get that impression from (C) or (E), both of which use the passive voice unnecessarily and confusingly. The answer is (D), in which pronoun reference and the placement of modifiers is perfectly clear.


A side question: do posting this information here for discussion break the copyright law? I suppose not, as I am not reproducing or distributing the content, rather putting just a question up for discussion.


'D' - 1.29 mins:-D
This is a tricky question :-) I was confused between A and D but finally chose D.

(A) Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible. 'habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible' seems odd
(B) Good eating habits sometimes fail to be maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts caused by desiring to be as thin as possible. Seems Good eating habits fail to maintain young female
(C) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, good eating habits are sometimes not maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts. Modifier issue - Because they desire .. good eating habits
(D) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits. Choose based on PoE and meaning
(E) Young female dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits because they desire to be as thin as possible. 'They' could have multiple antecedents Habits or Dancers and Gymnasts'
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Hey hey E illegally omits "ballet". Isn't that the cause. Kaplan is testing vigilance :)
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Nice Question. Narrowed to D and E but chose E and it wrong !!!
Agree why the OA is D as it has no ambiguity in terms of pronoun reference.
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Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.

A) Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.
B) Good eating habits sometimes fail to be maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts caused by desiring to be as thin as possible.
C) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, good eating habits are sometimes not maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts.
D) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits.
E) Young female dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits because they desire to be as thin as possible.

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Kaplan says answer is D, I think the answer is E. Here's what Kaplan has to say, which I don't understand:
The modifier is misplaced here. What is caused by the desire to be as thin as possible? Not good eating habits, though that's the impression you could get from (A), and not the ballet dancers and gymnasts, though that's the impression you could get from (B). And who or what desires to be as thin as possible? Not good eating habits, though you could get that impression from (C) or (E), both of which use the passive voice unnecessarily and confusingly. The answer is (D), in which pronoun reference and the placement of modifiers is perfectly clear.


A side question: do posting this information here for discussion break the copyright law? I suppose not, as I am not reproducing or distributing the content, rather putting just a question up for discussion.


My Pick is D.

'they' in D refers to young athletes , but 'they' in E can refer to 'eating habits ' also. this 'they' in E is ambiguous.


+1 Thank you ugimba. Makes sense now.

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+ 1 for D, 'They' in E is ambiguous.

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Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.

A) Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.
B) Good eating habits sometimes fail to be maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts caused by desiring to be as thin as possible.
C) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, good eating habits are sometimes not maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts.
D) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits.
E) Young female dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits because they desire to be as thin as possible.

1) For D & E: Because they desire to be as thin as possible, .... they fail to maintain good eating habbits? How can the desire to be thin be the reason for failing to maintain good eating habbits? What's the logic? To me, starting a sentence with because is not a problem. Rather logically the reason (Because ...) does not go with the statement. Can somebody please help? "Although" in place of "Because" would give a correct sense.

2) For E: Logically, how can eating habbits desire to be as thin as possible? If I read the sentence, I connect "they" right away with Female Dancers and Gymnasts. This is what my logic says, regardless of the placement of "they".
Missing "Ballet" from Female Ballet Dancers in E is a good reason to consider it wrong, but I need to understand how "they" can refer to eating habbits? Does not make a sense to me.

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Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.

(A) Young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits caused by the desire to be as thin as possible.
(B) Good eating habits sometimes fail to be maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts caused by desiring to be as thin as possible.
(C) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, good eating habits are sometimes not maintained by young female ballet dancers and gymnasts.
(D) Because they desire to be as thin as possible, young female ballet dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits.
(E) Young female dancers and gymnasts sometimes fail to maintain good eating habits because they desire to be as thin as possible.

[Reveal] Spoiler: OE
Kaplan says answer is D, I think the answer is E. Here's what Kaplan has to say, which I don't understand:
The modifier is misplaced here. What is caused by the desire to be as thin as possible? Not good eating habits, though that's the impression you could get from (A), and not the ballet dancers and gymnasts, though that's the impression you could get from (B). And who or what desires to be as thin as possible? Not good eating habits, though you could get that impression from (C) or (E), both of which use the passive voice unnecessarily and confusingly. The answer is (D), in which pronoun reference and the placement of modifiers is perfectly clear.


A side question: do posting this information here for discussion break the copyright law? I suppose not, as I am not reproducing or distributing the content, rather putting just a question up for discussion.


Very nice question. Had gone for E initially, but now realize the subtle pronoun error.

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choice D

in E, they could refer to gymnasts or ballet dancers

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Although I choose D, E is also very temping. Thank some guy with nice explanation for why E is wrong. :D
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Didn't get what's wrong whith A?

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