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a, b, c, d, and e are five numbers such that a≤b≤c≤d≤e and e-c=4. A is the average (arithmetic mean) of the five numbers, and M is their median. Is A>M? (1) e+c=34 (2) c=a+10 So I actually understand the solution provided but it seemed a little un-intuitive, was hoping someone here could discover some sort of new insight about this problem. Basically, the solution suggests plugging but I wonder if there is something nicer...
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a, b, c, d, and e are five numbers such that a≤b≤c≤d≤e and e-c=4. A is the average (arithmetic mean) of the five numbers, and M is their median. Is A>M?
(1) e+c=34 (2) c=a+10
Answer should be C
Case I e-c = 4 e+c =34 median is 15 = M e= 19, c =15 taking max values for a, b, c, d, e A = 15+15+15+19+19/5 > M Taking min values, example A = (-10)+(-10)+15+15+19/5 < M Case I = not sufficient
Case II
c=a+10 e=c+4 => e=a+14 considering a = -10 c = 0 e = 14
A<M (-10, 10, 0, 0, 14), A>M (-10, 0, 0, 14, 14)
Combining both cases
a=5, c=15, e =19
M =15 min values A = 5+5+15+15+19/5 < M
Max Values A = 5+15+15+19+19/5 < M
Hence C is the answer.
Hope it clarifies
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anon1 wrote: a, b, c, d, and e are five numbers such that a≤b≤c≤d≤e and e-c=4. A is the average (arithmetic mean) of the five numbers, and M is their median. Is A>M?
(1) e+c=34 (2) c=a+10
So I actually understand the solution provided but it seemed a little un-intuitive, was hoping someone here could discover some sort of new insight about this problem. Basically, the solution suggests plugging but I wonder if there is something nicer... Problems with plugging-in are finding right numbers to plug and not knowing where to stop. A more methodogical algebric approach is sure shot way to solve DS. (but sometimes time consuming). Need to find the right balance between two. Question says: a, b, c, d, and e are five numbers such that a≤b≤c≤d≤e and e-c=4 We cant assume that a,b,c,d and e are integers or positive etc. e could be 23.4 and c could be 19.4 or a, b or c could be anything negative or in decimals. Plugging in right numbers would be very hard and very time consuming. Infact- the solution given above by suryanshg 'assumes' numbers are integers.. and is therefore incorrect. ------------- Lets take a look at the problem. given is e-c =4 and a≤b≤c≤d≤e Clearly c is the median. problem is finding out avergage, A = (sum/5) statement 1: e+c=34we can combine this with e-c=4 to find out e=19, and c=15, but nothing else. Not sufficient. Statement 2: c =a+10 or a = c-10. Now notice, b is a number between a and c and it can be written as c-10<= b <=csimilarly d is a number between c and e or c <= d <=c+4If we add these two: 2c-10 <=b+d <= 2c+4To find out the average, we need sum. lets just take a look at sum Sum = a+b+c+d+e or Sum = c-10 + b + c + d +c+4=> Sum= 3c-6 + b +dusing b+d 3c-6 + 2c-10 <= Sum <= 3c-6 +2c+45c -16<=Sum <=5c-2Hence maximum limit of sum is 5c-2, therefore average A (which is Sum/5) is always going to be less than c (the median). This is exactly what we want to know. Sufficient. Ans B it is!Hope it helps.
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as i explained in case B, there are 2 situations M>A M<A
hence B alone is not sufficient.
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suryanshg wrote: as i explained in case B, there are 2 situations M>A M<A
hence B alone is not sufficient. Look at the highlighted portion. 1st mistake- c=a+10 e=c+4 => e=a+14considering a = -10 c = 0 e = 142nd mistake- A<M (-10, 10, 0, 0, 14), A>M (-10, 0, 0, 14, 14) A=14/5, M=0 how is A<M ? Probably should give u some idea.
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oops! silly error! definitely would have cost me 20 GMAT points. thanks
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suryanshg wrote: oops! silly error! definitely would have cost me 20 GMAT points. thanks  20 GMAT points and just thanks? where is kudos
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