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 [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2007, 19:37
LOL, this has turned into the alternative medicine thread to prevent hangovers! ;)

I appreciate all the suggestions, advice, and help. I think I feel a lot better now that I know most of the time there won't be an issue at all. I can "drink" a tiny bit, but I think either the "fake drink" method (diet coke) or the sipping a drink over the entire night should work for me.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2007, 04:32
People who get drunk are incoherent anyway so I don't think you should change your life choice by switching to drinking - even one drink. I started drinking at age 23 (never a sip of anything (not even beer) before) and honestly, I don't think it has helped in any of the "get togethers" I've gone to after work with colleagues...

To each his own, therefore, you can do whatever you want. Definitely tag-along on outings but don't feel pressure to drink. If anyone asks you to take a shot with them, etc, tell them that you're not feeling well or your doctor said no. That is what I would do.

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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2007, 13:56
I like to drink and I plan on drinking in school. In regards to people that don't drink, I wouldn't lie. Just say straight up you don't drink very often. But using a "fake" drink, or a doctors excuse could be more embarassing if you get caught later on.
I wouldn't really care if you don't drink, just wouldn't look to ask you if you were going out on a fri/sat night. Just show you are serious about school and I wouldn't hold it against you. Who knows, maybe you'll meet a good connection who doesn't drink as well and it gives you a step up.

I think anyone can respect someone who's straight forward about it. But don't make too much fun of the people who do drink if they do something dumb, they might hold it against you.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2007, 14:06
haha, just take pictures and blackmail them later on when they're CEOs ;)
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2007, 18:00
Interesting thread, with lots of things to comment on. My comments:

1) Not drinking entirely may put you at a disadvantage on certain situations / industries as explained. In certain situations, you would be unsuitable for some jobs if you don't drink, while in others being able to not drink for long periods of time would be an asset. Whether we like it or not the ability to drink (typically in a controlled manner) is a factor, along with tatoos, beards, long or short hair, height & weight, baldness, gray hair, the ability to play golf, etc. I think US laws would probably prohibit considering any of these factors for most jobs, but employers can find ways around it by clustering these factors into the ubiquitous "fit" category. On the other hand, I think that peer pressure won't be that great as most B-school students should be able to respect your decisions. I would, however, explain your motives for not drinking at least once, to avoid the speculation about your motives that would probably evolve if you didn't.

2) As said, there's several ways to fake drinking (if that's what you want). I usually take either Coca Cola or Jack & Coke and nobody ever figures out which is which. Same applies to Gin & tonic vs. sprite, etc. They are mostly undistinguishable, unless tasted, of course. Additionally, an easy way to avoid being pulled into some collective round is stating that the liquor being invited does not agree with you "since I had a whole bottle back in spring break of 02 and almost died". That usually does the trick (and is more or less the case I have with Tequila - still can't drink the stuff). If you are being asked what you are drinking to be invited another round, then you can order the alcohol version (Gin & tonic), use a straw and fake drinking for a few seconds, until you drift away and exchange the drink for the fake.

3) My method to drinking heavily without hangovers (I have been using it for 4 years now from time to time, with no complaints so far):
a) Drink either scotch or bourbon. No other liquors, no beer, no champagne, no fancy cocktails.
b) Stop when you are about to lose it (the most difficult part, I usually accomplish this by taking limited cash and no cards).
c) Drink at least 1.5 liters of water (that's about 3/8 gal) at the end of the night.
d) Sleep at least 8 hours.
e) Don't drink any alcohol until about 24hs after going to bed.

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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2007, 18:18
Well, as far as dealing with hangovers, water is the most important factor. 2 tylenol and a lot of water before bed does the trick for me. Liquor type and amount isn't much of a factor, although if you drink so much that you are still drunk when you wake up, that's a different story.

Like Lepium pointed out, for certain industries, not drinking is like having long hair or dying it purple. You might be able to overcome it, but it could be tough. Ibankers and consultants all tend to party hard.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2007, 18:35
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haha, just take pictures and blackmail them later on when they're CEOs


My brother is an equity analyst and said many ceo's drink heavily. At functions, they are already tipsy before dinner and many appear to be really drunk as the night progresses.

He has a picture of a very well known analyst slouched on a sofa, unconscious at function.
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 [#permalink] New post 06 Aug 2007, 13:14
pelihu wrote:
Well, as far as dealing with hangovers, water is the most important factor. 2 tylenol and a lot of water before bed does the trick for me. Liquor type and amount isn't much of a factor, although if you drink so much that you are still drunk when you wake up, that's a different story.

Like Lepium pointed out, for certain industries, not drinking is like having long hair or dying it purple. You might be able to overcome it, but it could be tough. Ibankers and consultants all tend to party hard.


Pelihu..I wouldn't take tylenol..You can get severe liver damage that way..people have gone into Acute liver failure when combining alcohol and tylenol...and liver damage can be silent..you may not know it's happening until it's too late.
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 [#permalink] New post 06 Aug 2007, 13:41
You're right James (actually you're jameswright, har har), that's probably not a good idea, although as I understand it, toxicity occurs with severe overdoses and repetitive long-term use. But, I'm not getting any younger so I'm definitely going to watch that.

I actually think that water is the biggest factor. Dehydration and lack of liquids other than alcohol are probably the biggest cuases of hangovers.
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 [#permalink] New post 06 Aug 2007, 18:15
My hangover prevention suggestion:

Let's say you're out drinking w/ classmates or whatever, and you get home late at night and are pretty drunk and tired, instead of just chugging water or whatever you normally do, and going directly to bed, force yourself to stay up for an hour or so before crashing out. Watch TV or play Solitaire or whatever it takes to kill an hour. I'm not sure why this works so well, but if I had to guess I'd say your body is able to metabolize the alcohol more efficiently when you're awake than when you're asleep or something like that.

So water, a little food, and staying up for an extra hour or so will make you feel much better in the morning. Also, taking a shower and brushing your teeth before bed will help with the mental aspect of the hangover (you know the part where you wake up feeling like a gross lush) because you'll wake up feeling a little bit crisper. Also if you spend that hour I talked about the night before doing something productive like washing your dishes or organizing your desk (which I realize sounds stupid to do when you're drunk) you'll feel less like a drunk bum when you wake up.
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 [#permalink] New post 06 Aug 2007, 19:32
good luck with that going to stern johnny!! hahahaha
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 [#permalink] New post 06 Aug 2007, 21:11
Kidderek - Yeah seriously. Aside from maybe Las Vegas I can't think of a city with more distractions than new york.
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2007, 04:18
hangover cure: milk thistle. you can find it in any vitamin/supplement shop. Just take one before you go to bed and one in the morning. I've gone through one-week college vacations without feeling hungover. and there were nights when my sole purpose was to see if i could get hungover! :lol:

P.S. I am not condoning going on one-week benders, especially while in B-School.
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2007, 07:42
pelihu wrote:
although if you drink so much that you are still drunk when you wake up, that's a different story.


haha...I have experienced that a few times :)

I think hangover prevention methods vary a bit among individuals. For me, if I down 2 glasses of water and get adequate sleep, never wake up feeling like crap. For me, getting enough sleep is the key.
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2007, 12:41
johnnyx9 wrote:
Kidderek - Yeah seriously. Aside from maybe Las Vegas I can't think of a city with more distractions than new york.


Born and raised in new york, and now living in time square, i can vouch for what you say. I never want to stay in my apartment and when i do, all i do is throw parties. hahahaha!!!!!!

It's gotten to the point where I don't even want to travel anymore. I've been to big cities around the US, but I don't think I'm going to be going anymore. NYC, for me, has everything and I really don't want to travel. I've never been to Florida either. I feel that the best beaches are outside of the US. Which is why I have traveled to the Dominican Republic and Brazil when I want to go to a beach =]]]]]]]]]

As for Vegas, I am going there for training in a couple of months but I'm not really looking forward to it. NYers go to Atlantic City, NJ when we feel like gambling... I know it's called Sin city but I feel that all of the pleasures of Vegas can be found here in NYC. I am not the touristy-type so I don't plan on going sight-seeing, having a camera in one hand and a map in the other, etc.

sorry for straying off topic. please dont arrest me.
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 [#permalink] New post 15 Aug 2007, 05:50
johnnyx9 wrote:
My hangover prevention suggestion:

Let's say you're out drinking w/ classmates or whatever, and you get home late at night and are pretty drunk and tired, instead of just chugging water or whatever you normally do, and going directly to bed, force yourself to stay up for an hour or so before crashing out.


I agree with johnny. If I stay up for an extra hour I seem to feel so much better. Or maybe it's just because if I go directly to bed the world starts spinning. :lol:

I would also add drinking orange juice as well as water. I remember reading something about how oragnge juice just helps you metabolize the alcohol better. So a virgin screwdriver might be a good last drink at the bar.
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 [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2007, 08:17
the big trick is to stop drinking alcohol and start drinking water at least an hour before you go to bed. don't think you can down a couple of glasses of water before falling into bed and get away with it!
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Re: Drinking and B-School [#permalink] New post 09 Jan 2008, 23:35
back from the dead!!!! ;)

I'd like to add a couple of perspectives to this....

1) Different cultures.

I work in a multi-cultural environment... I guess most business schools will be the same where there will be people from different cultures. Some cultures do not drink. This is acceptable, so there should NOT be any pressure to drink at all. Most multi-national companies are fully aware of cultural differences to drinking, so you should not be expected to drink if you don't want to whther it be cultural, personal or a religious choice.

2) Getting drunk

Working in Japan, they have a different perspective to acting a fool when you are drunk. Even in a professional meeting, if you get drunk and act foolishly, it is forgiven the next day and not mentioned at all. This is the norm for the culture here. That's why you can see the Japanese do some crazy things when they are drunk.

It's all about understanding the cultural differences and adopting them to the environment in which you are drinking or not drinking in.

Remember boys and girls, you are in or about to go into a multi-cultural eyes widening experience so make sure you are culturally flexible and open-minded about different types of behaviours.
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Re: [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2008, 05:24
eschn3am wrote:
the big trick is to stop drinking alcohol and start drinking water at least an hour before you go to bed. don't think you can down a couple of glasses of water before falling into bed and get away with it!


Ideally you throw in the odd glass of water THROUGHOUT the entire evening in order to never start the de-hydration in the first place (that's what causes the headache). That plus an aspirine before bed and the non-smoking bars of the US should do the trick.
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Re: Drinking and B-School [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2008, 05:29
Turmeric does the job fine.

Take a couple of turmeric pills and it helps your body to process the alcohol quicker. They sell it here in Japan.
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