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Need Profile Standard. [#permalink] New post 13 Jan 2008, 21:51
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I just wanted to know that for super elite schools like Kellogs, harvard, Stanford, pennsylvania and MIT, what type of profile (experience, GPA, extra-curriculars etc) at least is required (considering MBA in Marketing).

Age 25 (present) from Pakistan
My Beachlor's GPA is 3.8
My MBA GPA is 3.9
Done my Beachlors and MBA from one of the top five institutes in Pakistan (the best in my city).
Have published two research papers. (Up for some more)
Targeted GMAT Score 740+ (Am quite positive about it)
Just completed my MBA so no experience. but I am not looking forward to apply in next four or five years. During that time, I'll get workexperience as well as get involved in extra-curriculars.
Looking forward to build my carrer in Brand management.


Please advice (especially on extra-curriculars and experience) .

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Re: Need Profile Standard. [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2008, 15:36
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I'm not sure I understand... You already have an MBA? Why do you want to get another one? Top U.S. schools will be reluctant to admit you if you already have an MBA.

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Re: Need Profile Standard. [#permalink] New post 20 Jan 2008, 01:28
Well actually the reason I got an MBA was to start my career since you cannot have a job until you're an MBA. Nobody here entertains Bachelor . But the standard of an MBA here is not up to the mark. In fact, I guess I learned more in my BBA program that I did in my MBA.
Secondly, if US top schools have such a stringent policy of not accepting MBA's then I guess virtually no one from Pakistan can get into one of these schools since if you somehow get a small internship or a sales job on your BBA degree, after and year or so you'll be asked to get an MBA IF you hope to get into management. On the other hand, top B Schools in US require working experience in management (at least 2 years) so I guess that leaves no room for us in the US programs.
The reason for getting another MBA is simple to learn more and in a better way.
Besides if my first MBA is going to be hindrance in my MBA in US, so I could not disclose my MBA degree. Is there anything wrong with it - I mean are they going to probe into the credentials of deserving applicants.
(THE BOLDFACE PART IS NO EXAGGERATION. EVEN THE STUDENTS OF THE BEST B SCHOOL IN PAKISTAN (LUMS) AREN'T CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE FOR A MANAGEMENT JOB (OR HARDLY EVER GIVEN A MANAGEMENT JOB) UNLESS THEY ARE AN MBA OR HAVE SOME STRONG REFERENCES :) ).

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Re: Need Profile Standard. [#permalink] New post 20 Jan 2008, 14:11
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Then the key for you will be to make clear what an MBA is and isn't and Pakistan, and that the standards of an MBA there are very different from those as U.S. schools. I do think it will be a challenge for you (or anyone from Pakistan who already has the degree), but nothing's impossible. Be careful to mke clear that you will be a good citizen in the classroom, though... No one wants to sit next to the guy who keeps saying, "Well, I already have my MBA, and I know that the answer is this..." :)

It's good that you're asking these questions now. If I could give you a wishlist for what to do and accomplish over the next few years, it's to demonstrate leadership at work (not just by managing people, but by making an impact and doing things that go beyond your job description) and to find just one or two things outside of work that you're really passionate about, and taking a leadership role there to. For the latter, it may be community service, or may not be. Preferably it is, but what's more important is that you REALLY care about it, rather than doing it just to "check a box."

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Re: Need Profile Standard. [#permalink] New post 21 Jan 2008, 23:54
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Be careful to make clear that you will be a good citizen in the classroom, though... No one wants to sit next to the guy who keeps saying, "Well, I already have my MBA, and I know that the answer is this..." :)


Hilarious man. I laughed for about a min over this. Why the hell would I say that :P ? Anyway, thanks for your help. Actually besides building my career in some multi national, I am also looking forward to staring a business of my own (an online business). So if this plan works, do you think that this kind of stuff would be a plus point in my application.
Second you didn't answer my other question. If I don't show my 1st MBA degree, could there be any problem with it in application process or in future?

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Re: Need Profile Standard. [#permalink] New post 22 Jan 2008, 08:28
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Ahh, sorry... I would still disclose the fact that you already have an MBA. Definitely don't lie or try to hide anything in your application. Just be clear on why that's different from the experience you're trying to get now.

Re: your post-MBA career plans, I don't think your specific plans are a positive or a negative. But being clear on what you want to do with your degree is always a positive... As much as you can spell out what you want to do (it's okay to not be 100% sure about every detail; that's unrealistic) AND how your MBA will help you do it, that will help strengthen your story.

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Re: Need Profile Standard. [#permalink] New post 22 Jan 2008, 23:08
Thanks Scott. Actually even I don't think it's proper to lie or hide any info. Thanks for your help. A lot of things are quite clear now.

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