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Round 2: 730 again.....completely crushed [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2008, 11:53
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I'll give detail later for now just wanted to share how depressed and confused I am. When you see my practice scores, you'll understand the shock....I'm even considering giving up on the MBA dream now :(

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Here's my practice test history for the past 2 months in chronological order:
My GMATPrep tests were re-takes with an average of 12-20 repeats total. The first time I took the two tests I scored 740 on each.
The PowerPrep (PP) and Manhatta (MGMAT) were all first time takes.

GMP2: 730 (Q49, V41)
GMP1: 740 (Q49, V42)
GMP1: 700 (Q50, V35) - not sure what went wrong with V since the number of mistakes was same as with 41+ scores
GMP2: 770 (Q50, V45)
MGMAT1: 700 (Q48, V37)
GMP1: 760 (Q50, V42)
MGMAT2: 700 (Q45, V40)
PP1: 750 (Q49, V44)
GMP2: 760 (Q49, V45)
MGMAT3: 730 (Q48, V41)
GMP1: 770 (Q50, V46)
MGMAT4: 700 (Q49, V36)
MGMAT5: 730 (Q48, V41)
GMP2: 760 (Q51, V41)
PP2: 730 (Q49, V40)
GMP1: 790 (Q51, V48)
MGMAT6: 780 (Q51, V45)
In addition the day before the real test day I took.
OG11 Diag. Test: Q - 3 mistakes total in 95 min (out of 48 questions), V - 8 mistakes total in 95 min (out of 52 questions)
I had taken the OG Diag only once back in December and did not remember any of the questions.

Real GMAT 730 (Q49, V41), which is exactly the same thing I got a little over 2 months ago when I all I used to prepare was crappy Kaplan and PR and a little bit of OG.

In addition, I was using Walkers 1000 SC and CR with lately 90-92% hit rate on SC and 80-85% hit rate on CR.


Yes, I was super nervous on test day. In fact, a lot more nervous than the first time. Just can't understand why. The essays went well, in fact this time I had plenty of time to spell-check both. Wrote 500+ words on each. The Quant started really bad. The first question was some weirdly confusing word problem that threw me off and it took me about 4 minutes to figure out. I was expecting something much easier to start with. From there on, I felt it was a disaster. I just couldn't calm myself down. At one point I thought I was doing so bad, I figured I should cancel the scores later. Anyway, finished the Quant with 1 sec left. In fact, I had selected the answer to q37 and as I was hitting Next/Confirm time ran out. Not sure if the test counted my last answer. Took the break and tried to compose myself but I already thought it was a losing battle. I started the Verbal with super low confidence. That might have affected my earlier questions. But for some reason they seemed kinda easy to me, and because of that as the section progressed I sort of gained some of my confidence back. On RC in particular I liked all passages and I was pretty confident about my answers there. The last RC passage came at the very end. Finished with 1 minute left. At that point I was very confused - should I cancel or not. I thought the Q was a disaster, but I thought I did better than usual on Verbal. The latter turned out to be incorrect since I was expecting more of a 44+ score. I attribute this to the early questions but I can't be sure. Anyway, I decided not to cancel and here's the result. I am totally bummed. Don't really know what to do now. Except take a break first because I really feel burned out. That last weekend before the test, I spent like 20+ hrs studying/taking tests - that might have been another reason, plus the fact I couldn't sleep the night before the test. But excuses are irrelevant. That won't change my scores or confidence. Hopefully though, it may be a good advice for other people to follow - do not overstudy the days before the exam and make sure you stay calm and get a good night sleep. Also, do not let the outcome of Quant affect your Verbal section concetration.
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Re: Round 2: 730 again.....completely crushed [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2008, 11:57
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Do not worry so much! It is a good score and you also can try again in a month!
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Re: Round 2: 730 again.....completely crushed [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2008, 12:00
Don't know if I'll have the time any more - I'm getting really busy at work and it will get worse for the rest of the year. Plus, I'm so scared of the real thing by now since both times I felt I underperformed. In fact last night before the test I got so stressed I couldn't even sleep for 1 hr. Maybe that had alot to do with the poor performance today although I didn't really feel sleepy. But I did feel very nervous.
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Re: Round 2: 730 again.....completely crushed [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2008, 14:56
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I don't understand, are you lacking in other areas in your application so badly that a 720 is inadequate? Doesn't a 730 get you past the cut for all the ultra elites?
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Re: Round 2: 730 again.....completely crushed [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2008, 16:15
Updated with the details. Sorry for the depressing read guys....
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Dude 730 will be more than competitive for most schools I dont know why you're so concerned. You Q V split is almost 90%ile for both . Focus on the applications - I know of several people who couldn't get into a single MBA school for 2008 with scores as high as 770 and people who got into top schools with scores of 660. That goes to show how much more powerful essays are in terms of getting you into a top school than a super high gmat score.
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Yes dude.Both your scores are consistent and let me tell you Gmat is one thing.Not the only thing!and how could you say that you are willing to drop the idea of pursuing Mba?certainly not with such an impressive score.Work on your applications...you have crossed the 700 barrier?isnt that gr8?i m sure u will get into ur dream school...cheers man!!! :lol:
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I don't understand what are you depressed about. 730 is a great score and not many people can get that. My practice tests scores from gmat prep and mgmat are all above 700s with gmat prep scores around 760, yet for the real gmat I got only 660. I'd be delighted to have just a 700 on my next attempt. I am not asking for more. Gmat is only a test. Go and have some fun.
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dude..first of all..you are not a good exam taker..so welcome to the club..YUP you know, i know and pretty much everyone on this forum knows that you are good..i mean you are 750+ material..but unfortunately on exam day our nerves get the best of us..

i had the same blown out feeling when i took my gmat a long long time ago..the first F---ing question on Quant blew me off..and it just threw me off my mantle.

so..here is what you do..take your gmat when you think you can calm your nerves..until then focus on your B-school essays..

and stick around this forum..it will help polish your skills...
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Re: Round 2: 730 again.....completely crushed [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2008, 20:56
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Chineseburned, your nerves played a bad joke with you..... :(

my 2 cents,

I definitely would try again in a month without any preparation, but weekend warm-up before exam.

I have an old trick how to trick my nerves. I say myself what happens if I loose. I try to imagine that in detail and say that is not important, there are so many really important things, such as family, parents, friends. After that I say: "Now, I have to go and fight for each questions for each piece and be as better as possible regardless results". It is maybe strange but it works for me many years .....

I have an explanation for this trick as I like to explain all similar things. If I expect a very important exam/task/speech and something goes wrongs, my mind have a huge uncertainty what happens when I loose. my mind is a typical human mind and does not like uncertainty. And the critical level of uncertainty triggers panic and makes all thing worse. Merely What I do, I decrease uncertainty and my nerves cool down.

And again, your score is not so bad if you have a strong package.
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Cant agree more with Walker.

Just chill Chineseburned. Have a drink...I am sure you will feel differently tomorrow morning. The more you have riding on the GMAT score , more nervous you are gonna get...so have attitude of "so what?" ...and unfortunately its easier said than done. but you have no option but try that.

Irrespective of everything...I am sure you have a great career awaiting.

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Chineseburned, your nerves played a bad joke with you..... :(

my 2 cents,

I definitely would try again in a month without any preparation, but weekend warm-up before exam.

I have an old trick how to trick my nerves. I say myself what happens if I loose. I try to imagine that in detail and say that is not important, there are so many really important things, such as family, parents, friends. After that I say: "Now, I have to go and fight for each questions for each piece and be as better as possible regardless results". It is maybe strange but it works for me many years .....

I have an explanation for this trick as I like to explain all similar things. If I expect a very important exam/task/speech and something goes wrongs, my mind have a huge uncertainty what happens when I loose. my mind is a typical human mind and does not like uncertainty. And the critical level of uncertainty triggers panic and makes all thing worse. Merely What I do, I decrease uncertainty and my nerves cool down.

And again, your score is not so bad if you have a strong package.


@Walker, you are really matured!
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730 is awsome score. I dream of it. Do not depressed.
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chineseburned, you don't need anyone to tell you that is a great score. 97th%ile is pretty damn good. You are above the average at Harvard. Anyway I do know how you feel and if you read my post from my first test it seems like we had similiar experience. The first question set the tone for the whole test. I just couldn't understand it and get it and it threw me off and had me nervous and behind time the whole test. I agree with Walker, stay fresh, don't get too crazy with studying , reschedule and go in and get it done. And verbal is a tough beast to slay. 41 is impressive. Over that, I mean we are talking about no more than probably 4-5 wrong. When the pressures on , and you are upset about quant, then you may lose sight of certain question aspects.

But if you have it in you to score 750 ,then go for it again. A month of hardcore studying isn't going to help too much. All you need to worry about is execution on test day.

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Oh man!... Chineseburned, you're doing well. Yesterday I tried my first attempt cause I couldn't pastponed the test a weak ago without losing $250. So I decided to accept the challenge. I got Q49V35=690. 20 mins before the end of the torture I told myself f**k off (I don't care). A weak ago I already decided to retake in 2 months. So you are still 730' guy. Excellent result. Our people say: Professionalism means a stability in the excellence. Walker understands that and can prove. So if you really want to double the score you must do something new. Just do it - write essays, help people, meet your old friends, and maybe do something amazing at work. And reflect those in the essays. Who knows maybe next time we'll meet you as the King of Wall Street (or me :lol: )
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Even if you are trying to compensate for an extremely low GPA, a 730 more than compensates for that. On Wharton's message boards, a prospective asked if he should retake after a 720. The adcom replied saying that a 720 eases any concerns they may have about academic aptitude. They recommended that he not retake it and focus on other aspects of his profile.
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Indeed, 730 is a great score, but I can see wher you think yur efforts were a little shorted. I hope you still rock out your essays and get into your schools.
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maverick2011 wrote:
Even if you are trying to compensate for an extremely low GPA, a 730 more than compensates for that. On Wharton's message boards, a prospective asked if he should retake after a 720. The adcom replied saying that a 720 eases any concerns they may have about academic aptitude. They recommended that he not retake it and focus on other aspects of his profile.


I really think that 730 is a great score. I do agree that there are other aspects of application to work on. You can always re-take your GMAT again after improving other areas of your application if you want to, right?
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Re: Round 2: 730 again.....completely crushed [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2008, 19:46
Seriously, 730 is an excellent score and there is absolutely no sense in retaking the GMAT to get a higher score.
I'm a student at Kellogg and know how the adcom considers GMAT scores. Even if you have a low GPA, a 730 is high enough to take away any concerns about your academic abilities. A higher score is not going to do anything for you. You're better off putting the extra effort in your essays.
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Re: Round 2: 730 again.....completely crushed [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2008, 09:38
Thanks guys. I understand the score is not bad. However, given my decision to retake the test 2 months ago and then going through a much more focused and efficient preparation, the final outcome can only be a disappointment. Especially when I felt I was much much more ready than the first time I took the test. So, it is a confidence killer too. Another question is why I decided to retake, but since I did, I should've done better.

Anyway, after a week of rest and staying away from anything GMAT related, I decided to give it one final shot in 4 weeks. This time I won't study as much since I won't have the time and I'll try to not take it seriously at all. Will not be sending those scores, so if things go bad again, nobody will know.

This time I really need to work on my mental preparation. I'll re-read this thread and all the excellent advice you've given me every day from now until test day. Let's see what happens.

This will definitely be my last try on the GMAT. After that I'll focus on essays and research schools.

BTW, I got my AWA score and although I got a 6.0 again, it is of little consolation. It is amazing how I managed to get the exact same score in all three sections in my 2 takes. If only consistency was awarded as much as progress and excellence.... :)
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Re: Round 2: 730 again.....completely crushed [#permalink] New post 30 Apr 2008, 00:01
Chineseburned... 8-) you... you are a very target-oriented man as far as I see. 3d time, ohh, of course IMHO it's redundant but I do respect your perseverance. I'm about to bet that you'll get a bit more than 730. Or equal :wink: . It seems like sort of gambling for you. Anyway I wish you the best.

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