Find all School-related info fast with the new School-Specific MBA Forum

It is currently 22 Jul 2014, 15:54

Close

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Events & Promotions

Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

m04 #04

  Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  
Author Message
Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 03 Feb 2011
Posts: 12
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 1 [0], given: 0

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 27 Mar 2011, 22:37
@rajeshaaidu : We are talking about the Total number of male students and female students in seperate here.With refence to the post above,the second case assumes the values M = 1 and F = 2.So the Total number of female students are 200 and the male students will still be 100.
So the Males in MIS will be 12 percent of 100 as explained.
Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 03 Feb 2011
Posts: 12
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 1 [0], given: 0

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 27 Mar 2011, 22:47
siddharthasingh wrote:
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
a poor worded question.
consider the total no of students be 100
if x be the no of males and 100-x be the no of females.
Statement 1 says that 5% of the female students at wisconsin university are studying MIS. then 0.05(100-x) is the no of females studying MIS. but its not possible to find out the percentage of the female students studying MIS. hence data insufficient

Statement 2 says that 12% of the male students of the univ. are studying MIS. then it means that .12x of the males are studying MIS.. still data is insufficient to find pout the percentage of the female students studying MIS

on combining the two statements,
we get the total no of female students studying MIS as well as the total no of male students studying MIS.
therefore percentage of the female students in the mis class is:-
[0.05(100-x)]/[0.05(100-x)+0.12x]
while solving, x will be cancelled and the percentage can be obtained.

final answerc

still i am nt happy by this type of questions coz they are poorly worded and rather preparing students for prep for GMAT they are pegging up the students.


How will X be cancelled in the Expression above mate..:) ??

Answer should be (E)
Manager
Manager
avatar
Status: A continuous journey of self-improvement is essential for every person -Socrates
Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Posts: 72
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 2 [0], given: 14

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 28 Mar 2011, 01:30
karthikp1211 wrote:
@rajeshaaidu : We are talking about the Total number of male students and female students in seperate here.With refence to the post above,the second case assumes the values M = 1 and F = 2.So the Total number of female students are 200 and the male students will still be 100.
So the Males in MIS will be 12 percent of 100 as explained.


How we could take seperatly? It's given total number of student enrolled in the MIS and not the total number of female or male student enrolled in the college. so the assumption taken by getting the answer as E is doubtful.
Expert Post
Verbal Forum Moderator
Verbal Forum Moderator
User avatar
Status: Preparing for the another shot...!
Joined: 03 Feb 2011
Posts: 1425
Location: India
Concentration: Finance, Marketing
GPA: 3.75
Followers: 123

Kudos [?]: 563 [0], given: 62

GMAT ToolKit User GMAT Tests User Premium Member
Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 28 Mar 2011, 01:56
Expert's post
@kartik:
thnx for correcting me... :(
it wont get cancelled and thats y d ans shud be e.

_________________

Prepositional Phrases Clarified|Elimination of BEING| Absolute Phrases Clarified
Rules For Posting
www.Univ-Scholarships.com

Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 11 Feb 2011
Posts: 80
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 28 Mar 2011, 09:46
yes it is E....confusing one...
Manager
Manager
avatar
Status: A continuous journey of self-improvement is essential for every person -Socrates
Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Posts: 72
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 2 [0], given: 14

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 28 Mar 2011, 20:31
karthikp1211 wrote:
rajeshaaidu wrote:
karthikp1211 wrote:
@rajeshaaidu : We are talking about the Total number of male students and female students in seperate here.With refence to the post above,the second case assumes the values M = 1 and F = 2.So the Total number of female students are 200 and the male students will still be 100.
So the Males in MIS will be 12 percent of 100 as explained.


How we could take seperatly? It's given total number of student enrolled in the MIS and not the total number of female or male student enrolled in the college. so the assumption taken by getting the answer as E is doubtful.


Let me explain you...

Suppose you consider the total number of students as 100. Statement 1 does not mean that 5% (i.e 5) of them are males. It says 5% of the total male students and not the Total students, which is the reason why the seperate totals are considered here...Hope this clears the air...



I think you are right! Thanks for your explanation and patience. +1 for you.
Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 08 Jun 2010
Posts: 32
GMAT 1: 690 Q48 V36
GPA: 3.59
WE: Accounting (Accounting)
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 6 [0], given: 12

GMAT ToolKit User Premium Member CAT Tests
Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 31 Aug 2011, 07:48
Wow, this is an awesome question. Some described this question as poorly worded but is not. The wording is right. It is just you need to read the question carefully. Provided information does not mention total population whatsoever but it does mention that the 5% of total female population and 12% of the total male population at WU study MIS. Given these information one can never solve the problem.
Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 28 Apr 2011
Posts: 196
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 6 [0], given: 6

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2012, 00:32
IMO E


we dont have required data to cal required answer
Intern
Intern
User avatar
Status: Rotterdam Erasmus; McGill Desautels UBC Sauder - Admitted
Joined: 28 May 2011
Posts: 22
Schools: ISB, INSEAD, Harvard, Warton
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 6 [0], given: 33

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2013, 02:56
Ans : e
Let there be 1000 students in Winconsin university of which M are male and W are female.
 M + W = 1000 - (i)
 Required:
% of female students among the total students enrolled in MIS (i.e.:
(Female enrolled in in MIS “a” ) / (Male enrolled in MIS “b” + Female enrolled in MIS “a”)

Case 1:
5% women in Wisconsin studying MIS (a) = 5% of W = .05W
We do not have value of “a” or “b”.
Not sufficient

Case 2:
12% of men in Wisconsin studying MIS (b) = 12% of M = .12M
We do not have value of “a” or “b”.
Not sufficient.

Case 3: Combining case 1 and case 2, we have value of men and women studying MIS when the total number of students is 1000.
Students studying MIS : .05W + .12 M
But we do not value of W and M.

Not sufficient

_________________

-- Because beauty Lies in the Eyes.. So donate those eyes :) :)

KUDOS if like the post ... ;)

Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 27 Oct 2011
Posts: 15
Concentration: Finance, Technology
GMAT Date: 04-10-2012
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 4 [0], given: 7

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2013, 04:34
E (Insufficient information)

Lets make a table

Female Male
MIS Course 5% of total female M=12% of total Male
Other Courses 95% 88%
Total in Wiscosin Univ = 200 100% 100%

For 1st statement, we can look at Female column, everything is in percentage.. we are not given a whole number a ratio with respect to Female studentsa ratio with respect to Female students such as total number of Female students or a ratio with respect to male students... Not sufficient

For 2nd statement, we can look at Male column, everything is in percentage.. we are not given a whole number such as total number of students and a ratio with respect to Female students... Not sufficient


Combining Both 1 & 2 statements, again we don't have a whole number such as total number of students or total number of girl students.
Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
Posts: 1
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2013, 08:00
It has to be answer c!

You are not understanding the question...

the question asks what percent of MIS students... so the total population should be MIS students at Winsconsin University...

Therefore, we know that 5/17 % of the MIS students at Winsconsin University are female.

Anwer is c!
Manager
Manager
avatar
Status: Joining Cranfield Sep 2014
Joined: 01 Sep 2012
Posts: 65
Concentration: Technology, General Management
GMAT 1: 530 Q50 V14
GMAT 2: 630 Q48 V29
WE: Engineering (Energy and Utilities)
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 18 [0], given: 60

Reviews Badge
Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2013, 08:27
C should be the answer.
If 100 is total no. of Students in W Univesity,
a) then there are 5 nos. of students who are women and MIS student and
b) there are 12 nos. of Students who are men

So 5 / (5+17) is ratio of women to total students who are pursuing MIS in W University. Hence we need both the statements to answer the question.
The answer is C
Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 15
Concentration: Finance, Economics
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 04 Apr 2013, 07:20
You need to know the total number of students enrolled in the MIS program, which is not given... you're given the total of females at the university studying MIS, agree?

So neither pieces of information are sufficient to answer the question
Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 25 Mar 2013
Posts: 1
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 3

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 18:53
can anyone explain me i have doubt over here

the question asked was how students were enrolled and options 1) and 2) shows how many are studying doesn't they differ
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
avatar
Joined: 16 Dec 2011
Posts: 453
Followers: 9

Kudos [?]: 138 [0], given: 70

Re: m04 #04 [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 22:31
1. We don't know total number of students at WU and total number of MIS students. Not sufficient. Option A and D out.
2. We don't know total number of students at WU and total number of MIS students. Not sufficient. Option B out.

Together: We do not know the proportion of male and female students at WU. Not sufficient. Option C out.

Answer is E.
Re: m04 #04   [#permalink] 05 Apr 2013, 22:31
    Similar topics Author Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
m04 bibha 1 12 Jul 2010, 03:49
7 Experts publish their posts in the topic M04 #1 dczuchta 26 22 Sep 2008, 18:48
15 Experts publish their posts in the topic M04 # 32 dczuchta 15 22 Sep 2008, 18:43
3 Experts publish their posts in the topic m04 Q23 vishy007 12 14 Sep 2008, 05:12
22 Experts publish their posts in the topic M04 #12 Tvisha 93 10 Aug 2008, 11:56
Display posts from previous: Sort by

m04 #04

  Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  

Go to page   Previous    1   2   [ 35 posts ] 

Moderators: Bunuel, WoundedTiger



GMAT Club MBA Forum Home| About| Privacy Policy| Terms and Conditions| GMAT Club Rules| Contact| Sitemap

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group and phpBB SEO

Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.