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Location: United States
Concentration: Technology, Finance
Schools: HBS '17
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Please evaluate my profile [#permalink] New post 09 May 2012, 20:22
Hey Paul, I found your free guides very useful, however sadly I am not planning on applying to HBS or Columbia. Do you know when the Stanford guide will be available? Thanks, and appreciate the eval if you get to it!

About myself: Asian-American Male. Born in Asia, grew up in USA and UK. Currently 24 years old.

GMAT: 770 (Quant: 49, verbal 47, AWA 6.0). (Made the 80/80 split with Q 85% and V 99%)

School/GPA: Second-tier business college in Boston. BS in Business Administration. GPA is 3.39, but for the second half of college my GPA is 3.65

Professional background:
Total WE at Application: 32 Months

WE-1: ATG: Small E-Commerce Platform Firm. (12 months full-time)
Duration: Interned and worked part-time (20 hrs/week) during my last semester. Worked in partner alliances and partner management.

WE-2: Oracle Corporation: Large Hardware & Software Firm (20 months full-time at app)
Duration: Partner Program Management, ROI Projects for partners joining, Partner Recruitment, one project that I have led with a team of four co-workers which has to do with the best method of accelerating partners towards being ready to develop assets and sell to customers.

College Extracurriculars:
VP of Emerging Markets Club (Head of Middle East & Africa). Led team of ten students, at time was the second largest club.
Member of Venture Capitalism Club
Member of College Case Competition Team (Won consulting competition as ugrad team over ten graduate school teams from our college)
Member of College Rugby Club

Post-College Extracurriculars
I am involved with a non-profit based in Ghana started by a fellow student and friend from college. We operate in Ghana both from Ghana and from the United States. My main operation is running the mentor-ship program. This involves managing a group of 20 US-based mentors which skype with 40 high school students in Ghana on case studies, college-choice guidance, and school-work. I manage and create most of the case studies, which are adapted from corporate level business problems, ethics choices, or also local problems that these students may experience.

Other operations I assist with is the building of a resource center in Ghana for students and a central hub for local entrepreneurs, future building of an associated sports academy, college-level case competitions (cases revolve around local issues which are then planned to be implemented with government and corporate funding).

This is my main post-college extracurricular, when I was in college a lot of my EM Club activities were around sub-saharan Africa, and all of my essays in econ and international business classes were written about on these counties (African brain drain, corruption in Nigeria, the African Union and its monetary policy etc). This is an important issue to me, has been for a long time, and will be well-represented in my essays.

I have a great list of high-impact events in my life which involve international travel, to try to compensate for my lack of international WE (I have traveled to every continent but Antarctica). A lot of these are high-impact experiences which I will try to factor into my essays. For example, my visits to sub-Saharan Africa and its effect on my interests. My visit to Hiroshima with both sets of ancestors, one American and one Japanese, and how it affected my view of self-identity. While these experiences demonstrate my international experience, they are not a gimmick. These experiences are very important to me and I would like to use them in essays if possible to demonstrate who I am and how I view myself.

I am currently in technology, and looking for a career change to Management Consulting. All of the schools I am aiming for have recruiting relationships with MBB. My plan is to go to MBB, stay for an extended amount of time (Exiting before the director or partner level), and then devote time to my current non-profit NGO or another. Although I will always keep an interest in the current non-profit I am working with throughout my MBA and during my career, and absolutely relentlessly work to get my fellow students and co-workers involved.

Target schools: Stanford, Haas, Tuck, Kellogg, MIT, Yale SOM, Wharton. I have a number of key factors.

1. I like a well-rounded curriculum (No HBS, No Darden)
2. I prefer smaller schools, I have always gone to smaller schools (Stan, Haas, Tuck, Yale)
3. I prefer collaborative schools, with collaborative students (Kellogg, Tuck)
4. Main aim is to ultimately live in the Bay Area (Stanford, Haas)
5. I also want to take classes on non-profits as a personal interest (Haas, Yale SOM)
6. I really want to go to a MBB firm with a career change (Stanford, Tuck, Kellogg, MIT, Wharton)

MIT is a little larger than the others, but I do currently live in Boston and love it. I've also worked with a number of Sloan alumni and have been very impressed. Also, Wharton may seem to be a weird choice, being so large and having a reputation as a competitive student body. However, I have long had a fascination with Wharton and have loved everything I've heard from alumni.

I have a clear strategy and reasons already in mind for why I like each school. I am unable to visit any of them until the Fall however. Please let me know if I am stretching too high. I hope my GMAT can compensate for my lower than average GPA for these schools. Will my second-half GPA have a significant effect on how schools look at my GPA? Also, I struggled with accounting (C+), so I am planning on taking an extension course at UCLA online. Would you recommend doing this or devoting time to my applications instead?

Thank you for any input!
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Re: Please evaluate my profile [#permalink] New post 10 May 2012, 21:49
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Okay, wow, there is a ton to unpack here and I will try to do it justice by plucking out the key areas of discussion here.

1. Your list of schools is not too elite, if that is what you are asking. However, your question (along with some other things in your query) represent something that is very common but alas incorrect thinking in the admissions game - you are thinking only of you and not the individual schools. What I mean is: you simply can't list 6-10 schools and say "am I in the right place?" You have to run them down one by one. Every school is different, they care about different things, etc. For instance, your academic profile, goals, and perhaps your essays might all make sense for Kellogg or Haas ... but those school prizes more work experience and will consider you a bit young and perhaps want you to wait a few years. Kellogg and Haas are not "as hard to get into" as Stanford generally speaking, but in your case, they might be harder.

2. You also don't have to worry about being a "career changer" for purposes of choosing a school that can feed you into consulting. Just about all top schools feed into consulting, including MBB, and career switchers are more like bankers going to consulting or consultants going into marketing or something like that. Tech is just an industry or sector and it is a common feeder into consulting, just as consulting is a very common "staging" career choice towards a long-term goal that is entrepreneurial in nature. So don't worry so much about that.

3. As for schools that would be a good fit, be thinking of programs that admit a younger class, that value global thinking (you don't need international WE, just cross-cultural experiences that indicate an ability to work and play well with others), and that skew towards higher GMAT averages (rather than GPA, which I don't think is a huge problem but certainly not ideal). Stanford, Yale, Wharton, MIT, Booth, and Tuck all come immediately to mind.

4. Now we are getting to really important stuff - try not to frame your story and start short-listing content in a vacuum. If there is one mistake that applicants (and, frankly, other consultants) make is that they do everything from a candidate-centric perspective. A "what makes me great/different/qualified?" analysis. That is an okay place to start, I suppose, and certainly a prong that you always go back to, but the analysis ALWAYS need to be: "What does School X value and prize and how can I lean my profile into that dynamic?" For instance, if you applied to Duke, you would probably spend 75% of your essays talking about your international experiences (in the context of your goals, while explaining what they are and why you hold them, in the context of your values and experiences, and in the context of Why Duke), whereas for a school like, say, MIT, you may or may not even spend 10% on that ground (it would depend on whether those stories were the best fits for the very introspective/behavioral questions that school asks). Applying to b-school is extremely contextual and so I would caution you against going into the process focused on your platform to the detriment of really understanding how to score the most points on the board. And again, 99% of people do this, so it's not the end of the world, but if you can avoid being too inward in your positioning, you can really separate yourself from the pack.

5. The guides are a low priority for us, compared to client work, just to be honest. We try to produce one each year, to both help people out, and also show our expertise. However, we mainly focus on helping our clients get that kind of detailed, nuanced insight into all the programs. Rest assured, the knowledge is in our heads!

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Re: Please evaluate my profile [#permalink] New post 06 Jun 2012, 07:09
Hey Adam,

Thanks for the fantastic review, really provided a lot of insight. I have decided to postpone my MBA applications for at least a year. I am pursuing a career change back to start-up sized technology, so I think I will stay there for at least two years before matriculating for an MBA.

In my thoughts of my MBA it has become clear to me that I am still split between consulting and technology post-MBA. Although my career path is not set in stone when I enter into an MBA, I'd much prefer to have a clear mindset when applying and during my education, so this will undoubtedly help me career-wise. I am also in the middle of a surgery recovery and I was unable to visit any programs in the Spring, so I think this delay will really let me put my best applications forward by delaying. In addition, one more year will put less of a weight on my GPA and hopefully more of a weight on the other, stronger parts of my app while also granting more leadership potential and examples for essays.

I was wondering, do you have any nuances you can type out for the following schools? You and Amerasia seem to have very valuable insights into what each schools are looking for, and how that matches up with my profile. I have heard some typical tendencies, Harvard and GSB skew younger candidates. HBS loves loves loves true leadership, GSB really likes innovative thinkers and changers. I've heard that Wharton really likes to see high GMAT's and may overlook lower GPA's for sky-high GMAT's.

I would really appreciate any insight into GSB, HBS, Wharton, Booth, Kellogg, Tuck, Haas, Yale SOM along those lines. Or also any other very good schools that you may think could be high chance for my candidacy (with high GMAT, lower GPA, young, great extracurricular etc.) You had previously mentioned how it may be tougher for me with Kellogg and Haas. Any insights into difficulties as well, with Haas I am assuming that it is their tendency for high high GPA's.

It seems to me that Amerasia's mindset on this is much deeper than that of other resources I have used such as other consultants and books so I am deeply interested into these insights.

Thanks,

Andrew
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Re: Please evaluate my profile [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2012, 13:16
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Andrew –

Thanks for the kind words. Yes, we definitely like to take a nuanced and deeper approach to working with our clients.

With respect to the individual advice on each school, that is something that would be best discussed and developed via phone consultation. Please Adam and me at MBA@Amerasiaconsulting.com.

Respectfully,
Paul Lanzillotti

AK_X3 wrote:
Hey Adam,

Thanks for the fantastic review, really provided a lot of insight. I have decided to postpone my MBA applications for at least a year. I am pursuing a career change back to start-up sized technology, so I think I will stay there for at least two years before matriculating for an MBA.

In my thoughts of my MBA it has become clear to me that I am still split between consulting and technology post-MBA. Although my career path is not set in stone when I enter into an MBA, I'd much prefer to have a clear mindset when applying and during my education, so this will undoubtedly help me career-wise. I am also in the middle of a surgery recovery and I was unable to visit any programs in the Spring, so I think this delay will really let me put my best applications forward by delaying. In addition, one more year will put less of a weight on my GPA and hopefully more of a weight on the other, stronger parts of my app while also granting more leadership potential and examples for essays.

I was wondering, do you have any nuances you can type out for the following schools? You and Amerasia seem to have very valuable insights into what each schools are looking for, and how that matches up with my profile. I have heard some typical tendencies, Harvard and GSB skew younger candidates. HBS loves loves loves true leadership, GSB really likes innovative thinkers and changers. I've heard that Wharton really likes to see high GMAT's and may overlook lower GPA's for sky-high GMAT's.

I would really appreciate any insight into GSB, HBS, Wharton, Booth, Kellogg, Tuck, Haas, Yale SOM along those lines. Or also any other very good schools that you may think could be high chance for my candidacy (with high GMAT, lower GPA, young, great extracurricular etc.) You had previously mentioned how it may be tougher for me with Kellogg and Haas. Any insights into difficulties as well, with Haas I am assuming that it is their tendency for high high GPA's.

It seems to me that Amerasia's mindset on this is much deeper than that of other resources I have used such as other consultants and books so I am deeply interested into these insights.

Thanks,

Andrew

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