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While depressed property values can hurt some large investors, they are potentially devastating for homeowners, whose equity —in many cases representing a life's savings—can plunge or even disappear.

(A) they are potentially devastating for homeowners, whose
(B) they can potentially devastate homeowners in that their
(C) for homeowners they are potentially devastating, because their
(D) for homeowners, it is potentially devastating in that their
(E) it can potentially devastate homeowners, whose

I don't have the OE, Please give me a detailed explanation for your answers.
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 07:22
'E' & 'D' are out, 'it' can't refer to plural 'depressed property values'.

'C' is out since there is no clear antecedent for 'their'.

in 'B', 'in that their' appears awkward & also same problem as in 'C' for 'their'.


'A' it should be. (also, 'whose' clearly refers to homeowners)
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 07:54
Answer Choice: A

B-'in that their' is too wordy and awkward

C &D -'for' is too confusing as a conjunction

E-'it' is unclear
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 08:39
A it is..

You need an independent clause to join a depenedent clause stared with while conjunction.

ISINT THIS QUESTION FROM OG. I HAVE SEEN IT SOMEWHERE...

(A) they are potentially devastating for homeowners, whose
- whose correctly modifies homeowners... and they refer to values(plural subject)
(B) they can potentially devastate homeowners in that their
- wrong use of their.... OUT... in that is also wordy and used wrong
(C) for homeowners they are potentially devastating, because their
- need IC, their again created ambiguity...
(D) for homeowners, it is potentially devastating in that their
- it is singular and can not refer to VALUES
(E) it can potentially devastate homeowners, whose
- same problem as D
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 10:56
What the heck is going on with you guys?

Himalaya, come on. how can A change the meaning?

B changes the meaning... lets break B

the problem words in this question are THEY and THEIR.

in B, they refer to "property values", and THEIR refer to homeowners,
How is it possible? doesnt sound like their refers to "property values" too.
Moreover, in that their is just unidiomatic, clumsy and wordy.

Noone can beat A..
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 10:58
Ok, I just checked OG, question No 159...

same question..

A is the OA
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 12:42
Hi folks,

A little tantalizing clue. A is not the answer. Ritesh!! I haven't checked the OG yet, but I took this question from ETS Paper Test # 14, and in case any of you happen to have this question paper - the question appears in page 29, Question 22, Section 6.

So continue hacking at the question...
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 13:41
riteshgupta1 wrote:
Ok, I just checked OG, question No 159...

same question..

A is the OA


Hi Ritesh,
I checked the OG, and you are right, the answer is shown as A. But, according to the ETS #14 test paper, the answer is B. I will be happy if you don't reveal my answer right now, as I would like to see more participation. But, isn't it strange that ETS has two answers to the same question. Thought I would ping you, for your thoughts.
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 14:03
Darth_McDaddy wrote:
riteshgupta1 wrote:
Ok, I just checked OG, question No 159...

same question..

A is the OA


Hi Ritesh, I checked the OG, and you are right, the answer is shown as A. But, according to the ETS #14 test paper, the answer is B. I will be happy if you don't reveal my answer right now, as I would like to see more participation. But, isn't it strange that ETS has two answers to the same question. Thought I would ping you, for your thoughts.


sorry Darth_McDaddy,

I also checked the answer, it is A, not B. ritesh is correct here...
you also pls make sure and confirm the OA.
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 14:53
Darth_McDaddy wrote:
riteshgupta1 wrote:
Ok, I just checked OG, question No 159...

same question..

A is the OA


Hi Ritesh,
I checked the OG, and you are right, the answer is shown as A. But, according to the ETS #14 test paper, the answer is B. I will be happy if you don't reveal my answer right now, as I would like to see more participation. But, isn't it strange that ETS has two answers to the same question. Thought I would ping you, for your thoughts.


Sorry folks!! This is a classic case of Brain freeze. I meant to PM Ritesh, but I ended up posting my reply and thus revealing the answer. The OG says the answer is A. The ETS Test paper #14, says the answer is B. So, I am in a bit of a quandry. I think, we can safely settle with A for now. Please feel free to add your inputs.

Thanks for participating!!
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 17:24
OA is A. The only competition to A is C but in C the "their" at the end has no clear antecedent.
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 [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2005, 19:46
Darth_McDaddy,
I strongly feel 'B' can't be the answer, 'their' in the choice spoils the game.
It has to be 'A'.

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 [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2005, 06:36
Yes Vivek, We can settle with A. Though, I still find it strange that ETS Test#14, got the answer wrong.
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Re: SC Homeowners [#permalink] New post 19 Aug 2005, 13:27
Darth_McDaddy wrote:
While depressed property values can hurt some large investors, they are potentially devastating for homeowners, whose equity —in many cases representing a life's savings—can plunge or even disappear.

(A) they are potentially devastating for homeowners, whose
(B) they can potentially devastate homeowners in that their
(C) for homeowners they are potentially devastating, because their
(D) for homeowners, it is potentially devastating in that their
(E) it can potentially devastate homeowners, whose

I don't have the OE, Please give me a detailed explanation for your answers.


It is only between A and C. Can and potetial usage is redundant.
Now in A: they can refer to large invesotors or property values.
In C: their is referring to what? to they? Large investors? property values?
Ritesh, can you please elaborate on this?
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 [#permalink] New post 19 Aug 2005, 14:03
Usually, the subject of the dependent clause and subject of independent clause are same. Meaning the subject of the DC or IC clause is replaced with a pronoun that refers back to the subject of other clause.

In the IC here, "They" clearly refers to "Values".

In B, if you see the choice is using THEY and THEIR, in which both do not refer to Values. If one is referring to values, the other is referring to homeowners. If that is not the case, then their is referring to values and the sentence means totally redundant..
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Re: SC Homeowners [#permalink] New post 21 Aug 2005, 06:15
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While depressed property values can hurt some large investors, they are potentially devastating for homeowners, whose equity —in many cases representing a life's savings—can plunge or even disappear.

(A) they are potentially devastating for homeowners, whose
(B) they can potentially devastate homeowners in that their
(C) for homeowners they are potentially devastating, because their
(D) for homeowners, it is potentially devastating in that their
(E) it can potentially devastate homeowners, whose

I don't have the OE, Please give me a detailed explanation for your answers.


It is only between A and C. Can and potetial usage is redundant.
Now in A: they can refer to large invesotors or property values.
In C: their is referring to what? to they? Large investors? property values?
Ritesh, can you please elaborate on this?
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In C, they clearly refers to Property values.
But when you use their, it can resolve what is it referring to. it could refer to homeowners or property values. that's the reason C is wrong.
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Re: While depressed property values can hurt some large [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2014, 03:36
OA is A for sure and Forum Moderators can Lock it. Thanks!
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You are correct that the OA is A. This question is a really good example of shifting pronoun antecedents. Pronoun ambiguity isn't a big issue with the GMAT anymore, but shifting a pronoun's antecedent is incorrect...

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Re: While depressed property values can hurt some large [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2014, 20:53
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You are correct that the OA is A. This question is a really good example of shifting pronoun antecedents. Pronoun ambiguity isn't a big issue with the GMAT anymore, but shifting a pronoun's antecedent is incorrect...

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True!

The Subject here is: Depressed property values.
They Logically refers to depressed property values not Investors. However this was confusing as one may suspect that they may refer to Investors.

Option A is absolutely right.
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Re: While depressed property values can hurt some large [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2014, 04:14
Can and potential are redundant !!! we can use both in same sentence :)
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