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In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to about 41 million tons, nearly 25 percent less than those of the 1978 harvest.

(A) less than those of the 1978 harvest

(B) less than the 1978 harvest

(C) less than 1978

(D) fewer than 1978

(E) fewer than that of India's 1978 harvest
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2012, 20:26
"production"is non countable so "less than " should be used.
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A Vs B
X less than Y
production less than harvest
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2012, 20:53
Can some one explain what's wrong with A
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2012, 20:57
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Can some one explain what's wrong with A


A is wrong because those refers to tons . But we need to compare harvest total in one year to harvest total in another year.

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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2012, 20:57
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Can some one explain what's wrong with A



In 1979 India's rice production was nearly 25 percent less than those of the 1978 harvest.

does it make any sense?

Rice production is singular so you can not use 'THOSE'
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2012, 21:43
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In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to about 41 million tons, nearly 25 percent less than those of the 1978 harvest.

(A) less than those of the 1978 harvest

(B) less than the 1978 harvest

(C) less than 1978

(D) fewer than 1978

(E) fewer than that of India's 1978 harvest



Less than in the start of phrase should be there so, D and E are out. however, after less than "that of" is required to make it parallel. "Those of" is wrong as it comes when noun is plural. "C' is also out.
But why "B" is right I dont know.

Anyone, please explain.
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In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to about 41 million tons, nearly 25 percent less than those of the 1978 harvest.

(A) less than those of the 1978 harvest

(B) less than the 1978 harvest

(C) less than 1978

(D) fewer than 1978

(E) fewer than that of India's 1978 harvest



Less than in the start of phrase should be there so, D and E are out. however, after less than "that of" is required to make it parallel. "Those of" is wrong as it comes when noun is plural. "C' is also out.
But why "B" is right I dont know.

Anyone, please explain.


less than that of 1978 => right
less than that of 1978 harvest => wrong.


My weight is less than that of you => right
My weight is less than your weight => right ( similar to option 2)
My weight is less than that of your weight => wrong ? what is that of your weight?
you can not compare my weight with something which is " that of your weight".
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2012, 22:53
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In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to about 41 million tons, nearly 25 percent less than those of the 1978 harvest.

(A) less than those of the 1978 harvest

(B) less than the 1978 harvest

(C) less than 1978

(D) fewer than 1978

(E) fewer than that of India's 1978 harvest



Less than in the start of phrase should be there so, D and E are out. however, after less than "that of" is required to make it parallel. "Those of" is wrong as it comes when noun is plural. "C' is also out.
But why "B" is right I dont know.

Anyone, please explain.


less than that of 1978 => right
less than that of 1978 harvest => wrong.


My weight is less than that of you => right
My weight is less than your weight => right ( similar to option 2)
My weight is less than that of your weight => wrong ? what is that of your weight?
you can not compare my weight with something which is " that of your weight".


But in 'B' we are comparing production with the harvest, which might not be correct. Production with production will be ok.
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2012, 23:39
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But in 'B' we are comparing production with the harvest, which might not be correct. Production with production will be ok.


You don't need the attributes to be similar in terms of exact meaning. The attributes should be logically similar.

PS: production of crops is quite symbolic to harvest !!
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 11 Aug 2012, 10:02
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In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to about 41 million tons, nearly 25 percent less than those of the 1978 harvest.

(A) less than those of the 1978 harvest

(B) less than the 1978 harvest

(C) less than 1978

(D) fewer than 1978

(E) fewer than that of India's 1978 harvest



It is B. 1979 rice production is compared with 1978 harvest. Hope it helps!
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2012, 09:48
So if
(E) fewer than that of India's 1978 harvest

was changed to

(e) less than that of...

Will that be a correct choice?

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We only want to use "that of" or "those of" if we are comparing something *belonging* to something else:

The design of the new tablet is similar to that of its predecessor. (The design of one is similar to the design of the other.)
Jack wanted clothes similar to those of his friends. (He wants his clothes to be similar to his friends' clothes.)

In the above examples, it would be a big problem to get rid of the relative pronoun:

The design of the new tablet is similar to its predecessor. (The design is similar to the predecessor?)
Jack wanted clothes similar to his friends. (He wants his clothes to be similar to his friends?)

In B, we are correctly comparing the production in 1979 to the harvest in 1978. If we go with gmatfighter12's proposed phrasing, "less than that of," we have to ask what "that" stands for. If we say "less than that of the 1978 harvest," then "that" doesn't seem to stand for anything. If we say "less than that of 1978," the antecedent for "that" isn't entirely clear, although "production" seems like the most reasonable choice. E would then be clearer than the other wrong answer choices, but still not as clear as B.

Note that in my examples, it was very clear what "that" and "those" stood for. If we don't know what our pronouns stand for, we should probably replace them. In general, a specific noun is preferable to a vague pronoun (unless that specific noun is clearly wrong!).
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 23 Dec 2012, 06:18
when the number is big, we use "less" not " fewer" , though the number is countable

is that right? I am not clear of this point.
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No, size makes no difference. We always use "fewer" for countable and "less" for uncountable. Here, we use "less" rather than "fewer" because we are comparing the overall size of production, rather than the specific number of tons. This generally happens with weights and measures. For instance, I would say "I weigh less than 200 pounds," not fewer, because I am talking about a measurement, not a group of things. I'd also say "I want less than 3 ounces of coffee" or "I have less than 5 feet of rope left." Sure, we can count pounds, ounces, and feet, but we are using them to talk about an amount, not a number. 3 ounces of coffee is a way of saying how much coffee you have, but we're not counting individual coffee beans. Similarly, in the original problem, we're not counting individual grains of rice; rather, we're measuring overall rice production.
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2012, 23:11
"less" is used for non countable. "few" is used for countable

why "few" in D and E are wrong?
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2012, 23:43
thangvietnam, check above for the explanation given by Dmitry Farber from MGMAT. He has explained why use "Less" rather than "Fewer" to compare the measurements or weights.
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 03 Jan 2013, 16:21
B is correct.
Rice production is correctly compared with harvest while the comparisons in other options are not correct
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 15 Jan 2013, 03:01
DmitryFarber wrote:
No, size makes no difference. We always use "fewer" for countable and "less" for uncountable. Here, we use "less" rather than "fewer" because we are comparing the overall size of production, rather than the specific number of tons. This generally happens with weights and measures. For instance, I would say "I weigh less than 200 pounds," not fewer, because I am talking about a measurement, not a group of things. I'd also say "I want less than 3 ounces of coffee" or "I have less than 5 feet of rope left." Sure, we can count pounds, ounces, and feet, but we are using them to talk about an amount, not a number. 3 ounces of coffee is a way of saying how much coffee you have, but we're not counting individual coffee beans. Similarly, in the original problem, we're not counting individual grains of rice; rather, we're measuring overall rice production.



great, thank you, manhantan expert.

I am satisfied with oa but

In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to about 41 million tons, nearly 25 percent //less than those of the 1978 harvest.//

(A) less than those of the 1978 harvest

(B) less than the 1978 harvest

(C) less than 1978

(D) fewer than 1978

(E) fewer than that of India's 1978 harvest


but "less than the 1978 harvest" modify "production" or " 41 million tons" pls, help
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 26 Jan 2013, 00:24
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Can some one explain what's wrong with A

Here those of is not clear.Where/what exactly it is pointing?. To the harvest?country?.
Remove the word and the sentence becomes clear
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Re: In 1979 lack of rain reduced India's rice production to [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2013, 02:52
DmitryFarber wrote:
No, size makes no difference. We always use "fewer" for countable and "less" for uncountable. Here, we use "less" rather than "fewer" because we are comparing the overall size of production, rather than the specific number of tons. This generally happens with weights and measures. For instance, I would say "I weigh less than 200 pounds," not fewer, because I am talking about a measurement, not a group of things. I'd also say "I want less than 3 ounces of coffee" or "I have less than 5 feet of rope left." Sure, we can count pounds, ounces, and feet, but we are using them to talk about an amount, not a number. 3 ounces of coffee is a way of saying how much coffee you have, but we're not counting individual coffee beans. Similarly, in the original problem, we're not counting individual grains of rice; rather, we're measuring overall rice production.



THANK YOU expert,
do you have any tips for "few " and "less" , pls help
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