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The next set of medium/hard DS questions. I'll post OA's with detailed explanations after some discussion. Please, post your solutions along with the answers.

1. What is the product of three consecutive integers?

(1) At least one of the integers is positive
(2) The sum of the integers is less than 6

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-60.html#p1211902


2. If x and y are both positive integers and x>y, what the remainder when x is divided by y?

(1) y is a two-digit prime number
(2) x=qy+9, for some positive integer q

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-60.html#p1211903


3. The length of the median BD in triangle ABC is 12 centimeters, what is the length of side AC?

(1) ABC is an isosceles triangle
(2) AC^2 = AB^2 + BC^2

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-60.html#p1211904


4. Two machines, A and B, each working at a constant rate, can complete a certain task working together in 6 days. In how many days, working alone, can machine A complete the task?

(1) The average time A and B can complete the task working alone is 12.5 days.
(2) It would take machine A 5 more days to complete the task alone than it would take for machine B to complete the task

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-60.html#p1211906


5. Set A={3-2x, 3-x, 3, 3+x, 3+2x}, where x is an integer. Is the standard deviation of set A more than the standard deviation of set B={3-2x, 3-x, 3, 3+x, 3+2x, y}

(1) The standard deviation of set A is positive
(2) y=3

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-60.html#p1211907


6. The ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively. Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years?

(1) The total age of all the employees in these companies is 600
(2) The average age of employees in X, Y, and Z, is 40, 20, and 50, respectively.

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-80.html#p1211908


7. Was the average (arithmetic mean) temperature in city A in March less than the average (arithmetic mean) temperature in city B in March?

(1) The median temperature in City A in March was less than the median temperature in city B
(2) The ratio of the average temperatures in A and B in March was 3 to 4, respectively

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-80.html#p1211909


8. Two marbles are drawn from a jar with 10 marbles. If all marbles are either red of blue, is the probability that both marbles selected will be red greater than 3/5?

(1) The probability that both marbles selected will be blue is less than 1/10
(2) At least 60% of the marbles in the jar are red

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-80.html#p1211910


9. If x is an integer, is x^2>2x?

(1) x is a prime number.
(2) x^2 is a multiple of 9.

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-80.html#p1211911


10. What is the value of the media of set A?

(1) No number in set A is less than the average (arithmetic mean) of set A.
(2) The average (arithmetic mean) of set A is equal to the range of set A.

Solution: new-ds-set-150653-80.html#p1211912


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6. The ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively. Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years?

Given that the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x.

The questions asks whether (average age)=(total age)/(# of employees)<40, or whether (total age)/(3x+4x+8x)<40, which is the same as: is (total age)<600x?

(1) The total age of all the employees in these companies is 600. The question becomes: is 600<600x? Or is 1<x. We don't know that: f x=1, then the answer is NO but if x>1, then the answer is YES. Not sufficient.

(2) The average age employees in X, Y, and Z, is 40, 20, and 50, respectively. (total age)=40*3x+20*4x+50*8x=600x, so the answer to the question is NO. Sufficient.

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7. Was the average (arithmetic mean) temperature in city A in March less than the average (arithmetic mean) temperature in city B in March?

(1) The median temperature in City A in March was less than the median temperature in city B. Clearly insufficient.

(2) The ratio of the average temperatures in A and B in March was 3 to 4, respectively. Temperatures can be negative, thus this statement is also not sufficient. Consider T(A)=3 and T(B)=4 AND T(A)=-3 and T(B)=-4.

(1)+(2) We have no additional useful info. Not sufficient.

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8. Two marbles are drawn from a jar with 10 marbles. If all marbles are either red of blue, is the probability that both marbles selected will be red greater than 3/5?

The question: is P(R and R)=R/10*(R-1)/9>3/5?
Is R(R-1)>54?
Is R>7? (By number plugging) So, the question asks whether the number of red marbles is more than 7 (8, 9, or 10).

(1) The probability that both marbles selected will be blue is less than 1/10. This implies that B/10*(B-1)/9<1/10. So, we have that B(B-1)<9, thus B<4, so the number of red marbles in the jar is 7, 8, 9, or 10. Not sufficient.

(2) At least 60% of the marbles in the jar are red. This implies that the number of red marbles is 6 or more. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) From above we have that R>6. Not sufficient.

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9. Is x^2>2x?

Is x(x-2)>0? --> is x<0 or x>2. Basically if x is not 0, 1, or 2 we have an YES answer to the question.

(1) x is a prime number. If x=2 then the answer is NO but if x is some other prime, then the answer is YES. Not sufficient.

(2) x^2 is a multiple of 9. If x=0 then the answer is NO but if x=3, then the answer is YES. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Since from (1) x is a prime and from (2) x^2 is a multiple of 9, then x can only be 3. Therefore the answer to the question is YES. Sufficient.

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10. What is the value of the media of set A?

(1) No number in set A is less than the average (arithmetic mean) of set A.

Since no number is less than the average, then no number is more than the average, which implies that the list contains identical elements: A={x, x, x, ...}. From this it follows that (the average)=(the median). But we don't know the value of x, thus this statement is NOT sufficient.

(2) The average (arithmetic mean) of set A is equal to the range of set A.

Not sufficient: if A={0, 0, 0, 0}, then (the median)=0, but if A={1, 2, 2, 3}, then (the median)=2.

(1)+(2) From (1) we have that the list contains identical elements. The range of all such sets is 0. Therefore, from (2) we have that (the average)=(the range)=0 and since from (1) we also know that (the average)=(the median), then (the median)=0. Sufficient.

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6. The ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively. Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years?

Given that the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x.

The questions asks whether (average age)=(total age)/(# of employees)<40, or whether (total age)/(3x+4x+8x)<40, which is the same as: is (total age)<600x?

(1) The total age of all the employees in these companies is 600. The question becomes: is 600<600x? Or is 1<x. We don't know that: f x=1, then the answer is NO but if x>1, then the answer is YES. Not sufficient.

(2) The average age employees in X, Y, and Z, is 40, 20, and 50, respectively. (total age)=40*3x+20*4x+50*8x=600x, so the answer to the question is NO. Sufficient.

Answer: B.

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Hi Bunuel,

Doubt in this Q. Pls help & suggest where am I going Wrong in this Question ......

Q .. The ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively. Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years

Now, it gives the ratio of number of employees i.e.; 3:4:8 & then we can take this as real number of employees like 3 employees in Company X, 4 in Y & 8 in company Z ...therefore, we have 3+4+8=15 , 15 employees in total....& average age of employees in company X must be something, lets say its x for Company X, so the total age for company X will be 3x, similarly, for Company Y the average age is y therefore, total age for company Y will be 4y & for Company Z, the total age will be 8z. & the average of the total ages will be 3x+4y+8z/15 ...... & as the question asks, Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years ?? i.e.; 3x+4y+8z/15 <40 or 3x+4y+8z<600...... so we have to find out if 3x+4y+8z<600 ..... rephrasing complete.

now statement (1) The total age of all the employees in these companies is 600.
that means 3x+4y+8z=600 but we have to check if 3x+4y+8z<600. so it is clearly NO.

statement (2) The average age of employees in X, Y, and Z, is 40, 20, and 50, respectively
therefore, total age = 3*40+4*20+8*50 = 600. as we have to check if 3x+4y+8z<600. so it is also a clear NO. & hence , answer is D.

Now please let me know where am I going wrong. Your help will be appreciated. Thanks !!!!
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6. The ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively. Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years?

Given that the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x.

The questions asks whether (average age)=(total age)/(# of employees)<40, or whether (total age)/(3x+4x+8x)<40, which is the same as: is (total age)<600x?

(1) The total age of all the employees in these companies is 600. The question becomes: is 600<600x? Or is 1<x. We don't know that: f x=1, then the answer is NO but if x>1, then the answer is YES. Not sufficient.

(2) The average age employees in X, Y, and Z, is 40, 20, and 50, respectively. (total age)=40*3x+20*4x+50*8x=600x, so the answer to the question is NO. Sufficient.

Answer: B.

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Hi Bunuel,

Doubt in this Q. Pls help & suggest where am I going Wrong in this Question ......

Q .. The ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively. Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years

Now, it gives the ratio of number of employees i.e.; 3:4:8 & then we can take this as real number of employees like 3 employees in Company X, 4 in Y & 8 in company Z ...therefore, we have 3+4+8=15 , 15 employees in total....& average age of employees in company X must be something, lets say its x for Company X, so the total age for company X will be 3x, similarly, for Company Y the average age is y therefore, total age for company Y will be 4y & for Company Z, the total age will be 8z. & the average of the total ages will be 3x+4y+8z/15 ...... & as the question asks, Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years ?? i.e.; 3x+4y+8z/15 <40 or 3x+4y+8z<600...... so we have to find out if 3x+4y+8z<600 ..... rephrasing complete.

now statement (1) The total age of all the employees in these companies is 600.
that means 3x+4y+8z=600 but we have to check if 3x+4y+8z<600. so it is clearly NO.

statement (2) The average age of employees in X, Y, and Z, is 40, 20, and 50, respectively
therefore, total age = 3*40+4*20+8*50 = 600. as we have to check if 3x+4y+8z<600. so it is also a clear NO. & hence , answer is D.

Now please let me know where am I going wrong. Your help will be appreciated. Thanks !!!!


Given that the ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively, so the number of employees could be:
3, 4, 8;
3*2=6, 4*2=8, 8*2=16;
3*3=9, 4*3=12, 8*3=24;
3*4=12, 4*4=16, 8*4=32;
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Notice that the multiple is the same in each case. Thus the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x, not 3x:4y:8z.

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6. The ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively. Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years?

Given that the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x.

The questions asks whether (average age)=(total age)/(# of employees)<40, or whether (total age)/(3x+4x+8x)<40, which is the same as: is (total age)<600x?

(1) The total age of all the employees in these companies is 600. The question becomes: is 600<600x? Or is 1<x. We don't know that: f x=1, then the answer is NO but if x>1, then the answer is YES. Not sufficient.

(2) The average age employees in X, Y, and Z, is 40, 20, and 50, respectively. (total age)=40*3x+20*4x+50*8x=600x, so the answer to the question is NO. Sufficient.

Answer: B.

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Doubt in this Q. Pls help & suggest where am I going Wrong in this Question ......

Q .. The ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively. Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years

Now, it gives the ratio of number of employees i.e.; 3:4:8 & then we can take this as real number of employees like 3 employees in Company X, 4 in Y & 8 in company Z ...therefore, we have 3+4+8=15 , 15 employees in total....& average age of employees in company X must be something, lets say its x for Company X, so the total age for company X will be 3x, similarly, for Company Y the average age is y therefore, total age for company Y will be 4y & for Company Z, the total age will be 8z. & the average of the total ages will be 3x+4y+8z/15 ...... & as the question asks, Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years ?? i.e.; 3x+4y+8z/15 <40 or 3x+4y+8z<600...... so we have to find out if 3x+4y+8z<600 ..... rephrasing complete.

now statement (1) The total age of all the employees in these companies is 600.
that means 3x+4y+8z=600 but we have to check if 3x+4y+8z<600. so it is clearly NO.

statement (2) The average age of employees in X, Y, and Z, is 40, 20, and 50, respectively
therefore, total age = 3*40+4*20+8*50 = 600. as we have to check if 3x+4y+8z<600. so it is also a clear NO. & hence , answer is D.

Now please let me know where am I going wrong. Your help will be appreciated. Thanks !!!!


Given that the ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively, so the number of employees could be:
3, 4, 8;
3*2=6, 4*2=8, 8*2=16;
3*3=9, 4*3=12, 8*3=24;
3*4=12, 4*4=16, 8*4=32;
...

Notice that the multiple is the same in each case. Thus the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x, not 3x:4y:8z.

Hope it's clear.

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HI, Thanks for ur quick reply ......

yes, you are right, the ratio of number of employees is 3x:4x:8x but I didn't mean that the ratio of number of employees is 3x:4y:8z instead I said that 3x+4y+8z can be the total weight of the employees of three companies X,Y, Z if we assume that the average age in Company X is x & average age in Company Y is y & average age in Company Z is z then the total age of employees of company X will be 3x & the total age of employees of company Y will be 4y & the total age of employees of company Z will be 8z & therefore, the total age of all the employees of the three companies will be 3x+4y+8z & then we can calculate the average. Please review & give me some advise on that. Thanks !! in advance !!!!
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Re: New DS set!!! [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2013, 00:04
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Doubt in this Q. Pls help & suggest where am I going Wrong in this Question ......

Q .. The ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively. Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years

Now, it gives the ratio of number of employees i.e.; 3:4:8 & then we can take this as real number of employees like 3 employees in Company X, 4 in Y & 8 in company Z ...therefore, we have 3+4+8=15 , 15 employees in total....& average age of employees in company X must be something, lets say its x for Company X, so the total age for company X will be 3x, similarly, for Company Y the average age is y therefore, total age for company Y will be 4y & for Company Z, the total age will be 8z. & the average of the total ages will be 3x+4y+8z/15 ...... & as the question asks, Is the average age of all employees in these companies less than 40 years ?? i.e.; 3x+4y+8z/15 <40 or 3x+4y+8z<600...... so we have to find out if 3x+4y+8z<600 ..... rephrasing complete.

now statement (1) The total age of all the employees in these companies is 600.
that means 3x+4y+8z=600 but we have to check if 3x+4y+8z<600. so it is clearly NO.

statement (2) The average age of employees in X, Y, and Z, is 40, 20, and 50, respectively
therefore, total age = 3*40+4*20+8*50 = 600. as we have to check if 3x+4y+8z<600. so it is also a clear NO. & hence , answer is D.

Now please let me know where am I going wrong. Your help will be appreciated. Thanks !!!!


Given that the ratio of the number of employees of three companies X, Y and Z is 3:4:8, respectively, so the number of employees could be:
3, 4, 8;
3*2=6, 4*2=8, 8*2=16;
3*3=9, 4*3=12, 8*3=24;
3*4=12, 4*4=16, 8*4=32;
...

Notice that the multiple is the same in each case. Thus the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x, not 3x:4y:8z.

Hope it's clear.

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HI, Thanks for ur quick reply ......

yes, you are right, the ratio of number of employees is 3x:4x:8x but I didn't mean that the ratio of number of employees is 3x:4y:8z instead I said that 3x+4y+8z can be the total weight of the employees of three companies X,Y, Z if we assume that the average age in Company X is x & average age in Company Y is y & average age in Company Z is z then the total age of employees of company X will be 3x & the total age of employees of company Y will be 4y & the total age of employees of company Z will be 8z & therefore, the total age of all the employees of the three companies will be 3x+4y+8z & then we can calculate the average. Please review & give me some advise on that. Thanks !! in advance !!!!


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okay ..sir .. as you said in the first line of ur solution to this Q ...

Given that the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x.,, I think you have taken x as an integer so that it is flexible to say tat this ratio can be 3:4:8 or 3*2 : 4*2 : 8*2 or 6:8:16 or 9:12:24... I would like to know why can't we change this ratio of number employees to the ratio of weights of employees of the three companies...Can we change the Ratio of number of Employees to the Ratio of weights of Employees of three companies .... Pls Advise , Thanks in Advance !!
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Re: New DS set!!! [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2013, 00:27
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okay ..sir .. as you said in the first line of ur solution to this Q ...

Given that the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x.,, I think you have taken x as an integer so that it is flexible to say tat this ratio can be 3:4:8 or 3*2 : 4*2 : 8*2 or 6:8:16 or 9:12:24... I would like to know why can't we change this ratio of number employees to the ratio of weights of employees of the three companies...Can we change the Ratio of number of Employees to the Ratio of weights of Employees of three companies .... Pls Advise , Thanks in Advance !!


What is the ratio of weights?

Anyway, we need to find whether (average age)=(total age)/(# of employees)<40, or whether (total age)/(3x+4x+8x)<40, which is the same as: is (total age)<600x?

Does this makes sense?
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Re: New DS set!!! [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2013, 01:08
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okay ..sir .. as you said in the first line of ur solution to this Q ...

Given that the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x.,, I think you have taken x as an integer so that it is flexible to say tat this ratio can be 3:4:8 or 3*2 : 4*2 : 8*2 or 6:8:16 or 9:12:24... I would like to know why can't we change this ratio of number employees to the ratio of weights of employees of the three companies...Can we change the Ratio of number of Employees to the Ratio of weights of Employees of three companies .... Pls Advise , Thanks in Advance !!


What is the ratio of weights?

Anyway, we need to find whether (average age)=(total age)/(# of employees)<40, or whether (total age)/(3x+4x+8x)<40, which is the same as: is (total age)<600x?

Does this makes sense?

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I think there is some communication gap b/w us but still sir will try to make u understand what am I trying to say otherwise I will concentrate on ur solution & will try to understand....

First Ratio of # of Employees given as :::::: 3:4:8 ... so for me the # of employees in the three companies can be 3,4,8 or 6,8,16 or 9,12,24 any three numbers that satisfy the ratio 3:4:8. okay.

Second, in company X there must some average weight of employees, right ?? lets say that average weight is a1 okay.
so the total weight of employees in company X will be 3*a1 , if we take that there 3 employees in company X. or if u want you can take this as 6 but for that u must satisfy the ratio of # of employees accordingly okay.

now similarly, in company Y there must be some average weight of employees, right ?? lets say that average weight is a2 okay.
& therefore the total weight of employees in company Y will be 4*a2.

now similarly, in company Z there must some average weight of employees, right ?? lets say that average weight is a3 okay.
& therefore the total weight of employees in company Z will be 8*a3.

Now the total weight of employees in three companies will be 3*a1 + 4*a2 + 8*a3......... okay.
& if we are taking number of employees as 6,8,16, this will become 3*2*a1 + 4*2*a2 + 8*2*a3.... & in both the cases the # of employees will change but not the equation as if we take in first case

total weight of employees in three companies is 3*a1 + 4*a2 + 8*a3 so in this case the average weight will be 3*a1 + 4*a2 + 8*a3/3+4+8 ... or 3a1+4a2+8a3/15

& as the Q asks (average age)=(total age)/(# of employees)<40, or whether 3a1+4a2+8a3/15<40, or 3a1+4a2+8a3<15*40 or 3a1+4a2+8a3<600.

similarly for second scenario, if we take #of employees as 6,8,16 maintaining the same ratio of employees as 3:4:8.
in this case the total weight will be 3*2*a1 + 4*2*a2 + 8*2*a3 or 6a1+8a2+16a3 & the average will be 6a1+8a2+16a3/6+8+16
or 6a1+8a2+16a3/30

again as the Q asks is (average age)=(total age)/(# of employees)<40, or whether 6a1+8a2+16a3/30,
or 6a1+8a2+16a3<30*40 or 6a1+8a2+16a3<1200 or 2 (3a1+4a2+8a3) < 2*600 or
3a1+4a2+8a3<600 ..

but both the statements are disallowing it. so that's how I have this solution. if you think this can't be the way, so I'm really sorry to waste your time. As you are the Master of GMAT Math & you can't be wrong, I will review my logic again & concentrate on your solution to understand it better. Thanks for your precious time . Thanks !!!!
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Re: New DS set!!! [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2013, 02:55
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okay ..sir .. as you said in the first line of ur solution to this Q ...

Given that the ratio of the number of employees is 3x:4x:8x, for some positive multiple x.,, I think you have taken x as an integer so that it is flexible to say tat this ratio can be 3:4:8 or 3*2 : 4*2 : 8*2 or 6:8:16 or 9:12:24... I would like to know why can't we change this ratio of number employees to the ratio of weights of employees of the three companies...Can we change the Ratio of number of Employees to the Ratio of weights of Employees of three companies .... Pls Advise , Thanks in Advance !!


What is the ratio of weights?

Anyway, we need to find whether (average age)=(total age)/(# of employees)<40, or whether (total age)/(3x+4x+8x)<40, which is the same as: is (total age)<600x?

Does this makes sense?

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I think there is some communication gap b/w us but still sir will try to make u understand what am I trying to say otherwise I will concentrate on ur solution & will try to understand....


Second, in company X there must some average weight of employees, right ?? lets say that average weight is a1 okay.


Yes, your solution is not correct.

Also, we have the number of employees and age. What is weight???
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Sorry, I have made a mistake to write weight instead of age.
Anyways. Thanks for clearing my Doubts. Now, I realize, I was wrong & now will concentrate on ur solution....... I appreciate your help. Thanks a Lot Big Brother !!!!! Cheers ..... :-D

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Re: New DS set!!! [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2013, 05:20
1. What is the product of three consecutive integers?

(1) At least one of the integers is positive
(2) The sum of the integers is less than 6


Sol:Consider St 1, we get atleast one of the integer is positive ie. may be more than 1 integer are also postive.

Looking at possible option based on statement we have

Case 1: --+
Possible options : -2,-1 and 0 ( But Zero is neither positive nor negative so we can rule out this option)
Case 2: -++
Possible options: -1,0,1 (again 0 is neither postive nor negative and hence cannot be the option)
Case 3 :+++
1,2,3 or 3,4,5 ----Product can be anything and hence not sufficient

St 2: The sum of the integers is less than 6
Possible options

Case 1:-1,0,1
Case 2: 0,1,2
Case 3: -3,-2,-1

Again more than 1 answer is possible

Combining we get Sum< 6 and Atleast one integer is positve and hence Case 3 from St1 can be removed

But Case 3 of statement 2 is still valid and hence we can get 2 answers.

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Re: New DS set!!! [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2013, 05:24
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1. What is the product of three consecutive integers?

(1) At least one of the integers is positive
(2) The sum of the integers is less than 6


Sol:Consider St 1, we get atleast one of the integer is positive ie. may be more than 1 integer are also postive.

Looking at possible option based on statement we have

Case 1: --+
Possible options : -2,-1 and 0 ( But Zero is neither positive nor negative so we can rule out this option)
Case 2: -++
Possible options: -1,0,1 (again 0 is neither postive nor negative and hence cannot be the option)
Case 3 :+++
1,2,3 or 3,4,5 ----Product can be anything and hence not sufficient

St 2: The sum of the integers is less than 6
Possible options

Case 1:-1,0,1
Case 2: 0,1,2
Case 3: -3,-2,-1

Again more than 1 answer is possible

Combining we get Sum< 6 and Atleast one integer is positve and hence Case 3 from St1 can be removed

But Case 3 of statement 2 is still valid and hence we can get 2 answers.

Ans should be E


There is no positive integer in case 3 (red).

Check correct solution here: new-ds-set-150653-60.html#p1211902

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