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Random crazy question [#permalink] New post 10 Oct 2012, 16:45
Hi guys,

I am getting paranoid.

One of my recommenders borrowed my macbook to do finishing touches on my recos before uploading them on the school's website.
Do the adcom people track ip addresses of the person uploading? Since Microsoft Word has Author information on it, will they think that I edited the recommendation and deny my application? :-(

I appreciate any inputs from people who worked with Admissions panel before.


Thanks guys.
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Re: Random crazy question [#permalink] New post 10 Oct 2012, 18:32
If they raise a bell, i'm sure they will first contact your recommender to square things away. There are many factors that can occur with a duplicate ip address (shared network at work).

And generally everything is converted to a PDF too.

I honestly doubt that they will ding you solely on this, without checking on the issue first.

This is just a guess though, I have no evidence to back it up.
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Re: Random crazy question [#permalink] New post 12 Oct 2012, 13:13
B-schools have beefed up a lot of their behind the scenes efforts to combat fraud. I'm not sure how they will interpret these things...but as the poster above mentioned -- the same IP address within an office is not going to seem out of the ordinary. Just make sure you are prepared to answer any follow-up questions.




https://technolutions.com/slate/advantage


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Slate features a robust fraud detection system. By evaluating document metadata and login histories for applicants and recommenders, Slate is able to issue intelligent and adaptive alerts when potential fraud is detected. Our proprietary plagiarism detection system, able to be run on-demand or automatically on schedule, searches the entire corpus of uploaded documents and will identify statistically-significant duplication.


chethanjs wrote:
Hi guys,

I am getting paranoid.

One of my recommenders borrowed my macbook to do finishing touches on my recos before uploading them on the school's website.
Do the adcom people track ip addresses of the person uploading? Since Microsoft Word has Author information on it, will they think that I edited the recommendation and deny my application? :-(

I appreciate any inputs from people who worked with Admissions panel before.


Thanks guys.
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Re: Random crazy question [#permalink] New post 07 Dec 2012, 14:28
chethanjs wrote:
Hi guys,

I am getting paranoid.

One of my recommenders borrowed my macbook to do finishing touches on my recos before uploading them on the school's website.
Do the adcom people track ip addresses of the person uploading? Since Microsoft Word has Author information on it, will they think that I edited the recommendation and deny my application? :-(

I appreciate any inputs from people who worked with Admissions panel before.


Thanks guys.



Did he actually submit the letter on your laptop? If so, that could be a problem. Otherwise, I wouldn't sweat it.
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Re: Random crazy question [#permalink] New post 08 Dec 2012, 05:28
If you're worried about it, which is sounds like maybe you should be based on the above responses, then just call or email the admissions team explaining the situation. Remember, these are people on the other end, and my experiences with them is that they've always been very understanding of different circumstances and situations that arise during the application process. Don't stress!
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Re: Random crazy question [#permalink] New post 08 Dec 2012, 11:30
There's no need for adcom to manually verify anything. In today's age, don't you think it would be automatic? For instance, just a note that runs at the top of your application that automatically highlights anything odd. There are companies that already offer this kind of thing... check out the bottom of this: https://technolutions.com/slate/advantage

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Slate features a robust fraud detection system. By evaluating document metadata and login histories for applicants and recommenders, Slate is able to issue intelligent and adaptive alerts when potential fraud is detected. Our proprietary plagiarism detection system, able to be run on-demand or automatically on schedule, searches the entire corpus of uploaded documents and will identify statistically-significant duplication.
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Re: Random crazy question [#permalink] New post 08 Dec 2012, 17:39
QiuYidio wrote:
There's no need for adcom to manually verify anything. In today's age, don't you think it would be automatic? For instance, just a note that runs at the top of your application that automatically highlights anything odd. There are companies that already offer this kind of thing... check out the bottom of this: https://technolutions.com/slate/advantage

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Fraud detection

Slate features a robust fraud detection system. By evaluating document metadata and login histories for applicants and recommenders, Slate is able to issue intelligent and adaptive alerts when potential fraud is detected. Our proprietary plagiarism detection system, able to be run on-demand or automatically on schedule, searches the entire corpus of uploaded documents and will identify statistically-significant duplication.


Here's what I don't get about this. There are numerous instances where the recommender will share a similar IP address if you guys work in the same building or other cases where let's say the writer borrows your laptop to log in or cases like mine. Will all those be flagged as cases of "fraud?" Also, this software searches uploaded documents for cases of duplication. In many cases, we tell the recommenders what to focus on or talk about, such as certain projects or examples of leadership. We then talk about that in our essays to reinforce the message of the recommenders. Will those be flagged as "duplication" because we may have used the same stories or phrases? I don't know the answer to any of these questions. Just wondering.
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Re: Random crazy question [#permalink] New post 08 Dec 2012, 17:49
Shawshank wrote:
QiuYidio wrote:
There's no need for adcom to manually verify anything. In today's age, don't you think it would be automatic? For instance, just a note that runs at the top of your application that automatically highlights anything odd. There are companies that already offer this kind of thing... check out the bottom of this: https://technolutions.com/slate/advantage

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Fraud detection

Slate features a robust fraud detection system. By evaluating document metadata and login histories for applicants and recommenders, Slate is able to issue intelligent and adaptive alerts when potential fraud is detected. Our proprietary plagiarism detection system, able to be run on-demand or automatically on schedule, searches the entire corpus of uploaded documents and will identify statistically-significant duplication.


Here's what I don't get about this. There are numerous instances where the recommender will share a similar IP address if you guys work in the same building or other cases where let's say the writer borrows your laptop to log in or cases like mine. Will all those be flagged as cases of "fraud?" Also, this software searches uploaded documents for cases of duplication. In many cases, we tell the recommenders what to focus on or talk about, such as certain projects or examples of leadership. We then talk about that in our essays to reinforce the message of the recommenders. Will those be flagged as "duplication" because we may have used the same stories or phrases? I don't know the answer to any of these questions. Just wondering.


I think it's the combination of things. For instance, if the log-in is from the same IP, but the fraud detection doesn't find statistical similarities, then you're probably fine. But if the log-in is from the same IP, there's similar grammatical structure / diction, and the log-in times are one after the other, then it'll probably flag.
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