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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2011, 12:23
it's my understanding they do not see the rankings until they meet to discuss giving out fellowships. so for admissions purposes, they don't know. but during the consortium meeting, they find out.
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2011, 12:30
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Yeah it might be different for each school. But as far as I know... going through the CGSM puts you at the end of the line. Because the schools don't evaluate your application for scholarships or any $$$ until March. By that time a lot of R1 2 and 3 applicants have secured the school's funding opportunities. That is what they told me at Emory, to be specific.


I'm on the phone with a Ross student who applied through the Consortium. He said he didn't get the Consortium scholarship, but still received scholarship money from the school.

I'd definitely check with the schools you're applying to in order to determine if the Consortium fellowship is your only shot at funding.
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2011, 12:47
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But if the school doesn't see the rankings, how do they know if they are the 1. spot school? They would have no idea where they are ranked, so they would, in theory, be forced to give out the fellowships without knowing the general interest of each potential fellowship recipient.



The schools will see the rankings at the fellowship meeting for the first time. Schools before said that they could not see your rankings however they could see them... They are not supposed to use your rankings until the fellowship process in March. But like i mentioned before some schools have used the rankings as a way to manage their yield. If for instance they find out you ranked them 2. they may decide not to offer you admission.

The rankings are only for fellowship purposes. The meeting is in march (after admission decisions have been made) and thats when they get to see your ranking and based on that offer you fellowship. I hope this helps

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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2011, 12:53
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I see what you are saying chire, but do the schools get into a room and talk amongst each to figure out which one of them will give the fellowship to a specific student? Say a student has Haas, NYU and Yale on their list in that order. If they are accepted at all three schools, you are saying that the other two schools will know if Haas decides to offer that student the fellowship. Now what if say Haas is #1 on my list and Yale decides to give me an extra $30k in scholarship money on top of the fellowship. Are they now not able to give you the fellowship because Haas offered it to you first? Would I be able to change my mind based on the financial package I a offered? I'm trying to see how much the schools actually collaborate when it comes to deciding who does and doesn't get the fellowship, seeing as though they can no longer see where they are ranked relative to the other schools



Yup the draft happens in Missouri in March. The schools get in the room and the rankings are revealed. The school you ranked number 1 then has the opportunity to offer you the cgsm fellowship. if they don't the list goes down and number two gets the opportunity to offer you their fellowship

Note - by this time the schools - before even the draft, know who they want and so it all plays out from there. You can only get one cgsm fellowship. If a school that you ranked 2. really wants you it may offer you a scholarship but once one school offers you a fellowship its a wrap with the fellowship decisions.... I hope you understand

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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2011, 12:54
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it's my understanding they do not see the rankings until they meet to discuss giving out fellowships. so for admissions purposes, they don't know. but during the consortium meeting, they find out.



Thats what the schools say.... But trust me. If you have a friend who works in the admissions office, ask them..... The schools can see the rankings. They just tell you they cant. However i believe this year going forward they won't be able to see your rankings
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2011, 01:20
Yes the schools all get together when it comes down to deciding who will give the fellowship and they all see how the students have ranked the schools. The AdComs have told me that all the member schools are in close communication with one another. So the rankings play a heavy part. You almost need to rank the number 1 school not only as the school you want to get into... but it better be a school in which you KNOW you will be accepted. Otherwise, you may get into the other schools ranked further down your list... but can probably kiss the fellowship goodbye.
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 06:02
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Yes the schools all get together when it comes down to deciding who will give the fellowship and they all see how the students have ranked the schools. The AdComs have told me that all the member schools are in close communication with one another. So the rankings play a heavy part. You almost need to rank the number 1 school not only as the school you want to get into... but it better be a school in which you KNOW you will be accepted. Otherwise, you may get into the other schools ranked further down your list... but can probably kiss the fellowship goodbye.


I honestly don't think that there is a science to this. Fellowship awards will be handled differently by each school. People on this forum have reported getting the fellowship from schools they ranked #4. I think it's best to try to get an idea of how ranking sensitive your target schools are and then list them accordingly. I know someone who got into his #1 ranked school but didn't get the fellowship (they did offer him other $$$ though).

Since Consortium R1 deadline isn't til November, I think visiting schools (tons of diversity weekends in Sept and Oct) will make it very clear what schools you really want and if you've got a good shot at getting in. I won't do my rankings til after I visit. Heck, schools could fall off my list after visiting (that's what I'm hoping).
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2011, 05:18
Hey all! I have a question. I'm filling out the Discover Stern diversity weekend application. Did anyone use the box for additional information? I want to submit a complete application but I don't know what other information they could want that's not in the app or on my resume. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2011, 08:13
Anyone considering Darden? I ended up here after applying through the consortium and I love this place.
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2011, 14:08
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2011, 14:54
So I have a question, I have heard that a number of people apply through the consortium, without being a minority, likely for access to the common app and less for membership in the program itself (which is a pretty amazing program). While this seems like a good idea/appealing, I'd think that they might get dinged for it in admissions? Do they weigh the race/involvement of applicants for admissions, or is essay #3 (on mission contribution), the 3rd rec and interview not something shared with the admitting universities and used for membership review only? I don't quite like the idea of potentially gaming the system (I'm sure plenty do without any interest in the consortium's mission), but at the same time, it sounds like these other applicants were ok, and the organization doesn't mind people who didn't have much chance at membership applying/trying at least. But at the same time, I can't help but thing that if those essays/interviews are shared with admission teams, they might in fact harm an applicant simply for not fitting the consortium's general mission as well.

A friend pointed me to this from their website, which apparently makes it sound like your admissions isn't affected...
"While you may be granted admission to member schools without an adequate demonstration of commitment to The Consortium’s mission, you are expected to demonstrate adequate commitment to The Consortium’s mission in order to be granted membership to The Consortium and be considered for The Consortium Fellowship."

The program sounds like something worth a shot (it is a fellowship opportunity) and at the very least if that fails the common app is helpful, but since I'm not a champion of civil rights on the forefront of changing the world, I wonder if I would suffer if I tried to apply through the consortium. Again, personally, I have a little background in working to help minorities succeed in business, and have always tried to accept and promote diversity, but I'm not sure if that's enough for what the consortium is really looking for... any thoughts?
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2011, 07:58
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So I have a question, I have heard that a number of people apply through the consortium, without being a minority, likely for access to the common app and less for membership in the program itself (which is a pretty amazing program). While this seems like a good idea/appealing, I'd think that they might get dinged for it in admissions? Do they weigh the race/involvement of applicants for admissions, or is essay #3 (on mission contribution), the 3rd rec and interview not something shared with the admitting universities and used for membership review only? I don't quite like the idea of potentially gaming the system (I'm sure plenty do without any interest in the consortium's mission), but at the same time, it sounds like these other applicants were ok, and the organization doesn't mind people who didn't have much chance at membership applying/trying at least. But at the same time, I can't help but thing that if those essays/interviews are shared with admission teams, they might in fact harm an applicant simply for not fitting the consortium's general mission as well.

A friend pointed me to this from their website, which apparently makes it sound like your admissions isn't affected...
"While you may be granted admission to member schools without an adequate demonstration of commitment to The Consortium’s mission, you are expected to demonstrate adequate commitment to The Consortium’s mission in order to be granted membership to The Consortium and be considered for The Consortium Fellowship."

The program sounds like something worth a shot (it is a fellowship opportunity) and at the very least if that fails the common app is helpful, but since I'm not a champion of civil rights on the forefront of changing the world, I wonder if I would suffer if I tried to apply through the consortium. Again, personally, I have a little background in working to help minorities succeed in business, and have always tried to accept and promote diversity, but I'm not sure if that's enough for what the consortium is really looking for... any thoughts?


99% of people applying through the Consortium are not champions for civil rights on the forefront of changing the world (I don't care what their ethnicity is). Most have simply been involved with some type of effort that supports the Consortium's mission. If you are not an URM but can show that you've actively played a part in helping to increase the #s of minorities in business management then you should apply through the Consortium.
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2011, 06:26
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2011, 06:32
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Just got my invite for Discover Stern! Who else is going?


i got mine as well, but i'm not sure if i'll be able to make it. i'm stationed in germany, so i'm debating if i want to pay all that money to fly to ny for a weekend :|
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2011, 15:10
I actually just got rejected from Stern's diversity weekend. Did yu guys apply early?

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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2011, 15:31
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I, too, got rejected from the weekend and I applied early...first or second day the app was released if I remember correctly. Luckily for me I fell out of love with Stern last month after chatting with James Kingham at the DMAC conference, but I was still kind of surprised...I mean, I know my GMAT score is not amazing, but sheesh, I was just trying to visit...it's not like I was asking for a full-ride fellowship and a foot rub...yet. haha
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2011, 01:30
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Sorry that it didn't work out for those of you who weren't invited. I honestly don't know how they decided who to invite. I know they have another diversity thing in January or Feb and many Consortium applicants are invited and interview then. I wouldn't take this as a sign of anything. If you're still interested in Stern, then just schedule your own campus visit and then apply based on how you feel.

I submitted the day it was due. I would have submitted it earlier but I couldn't think of a single thing to put in the Additional Information box since Honors/Awards and Hobbies/Activities/Volunteer/Extracurriculars are all on my resume.


I'm still on the fence about applying to NYU and I'm hoping that a campus visit will swing me either way. I did go to an info session in Philly on Monday. The presentation was just okay, but I had a great conversation with an alum. I really need to just sit in a classroom and walk the campus so I'll know for sure.
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I, too, got rejected from the weekend and I applied early...first or second day the app was released if I remember correctly. Luckily for me I fell out of love with Stern last month after chatting with James Kingham at the DMAC conference, but I was still kind of surprised...I mean, I know my GMAT score is not amazing, but sheesh, I was just trying to visit...it's not like I was asking for a full-ride fellowship and a foot rub...yet. haha


Honestly, I don't know what factor GMAT really even plays. A friend of mine has the same score I do and he wasn't invited (not to say that our scores are amazing). It honestly might have been a random drawing. Who knows!?
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Re: Calling All Fall 2012 Consortium Applicants! [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2011, 04:34
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I, too, got rejected from the weekend and I applied early...first or second day the app was released if I remember correctly. Luckily for me I fell out of love with Stern last month after chatting with James Kingham at the DMAC conference, but I was still kind of surprised...I mean, I know my GMAT score is not amazing, but sheesh, I was just trying to visit...it's not like I was asking for a full-ride fellowship and a foot rub...yet. haha


I dont think your GMAT has anything to do with it, I have the same score as you, it may just be a random drawing. I applied the day it came out when I first saw the email. I have been in contact with several people at Stern including student ambassadors, alums, and admins not sure if that has something to do with it but it might.
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