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Re: Calling all Wharton 2011 Applicants
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03 Sep 2010, 23:15
03 Sep 2010, 23:15
wp06,
I wish you the best of luck. I'm with you in that GMAT is just a data point. Also, let's be clear of one thing, you have something most candidates don't - "real on the line leadership experience". We've all led teams, non-profits, family business, but heck, most of us were playing beer pong while you were serving in the trenches. So you've got something going for you bud, just know your strengths.
Last year, I applied for R2 and was wait-listed at a couple of top 10 programs (GMAT last year was a 640). From my experience, in R2 ad-com is less willing to take chances. They're attitude is to wait and see what comes along in R3. Most Einstein's wait and apply in R3. R1 is blank canvas, so you have that going for you.
Given your experience, I bet your goals are refined and you will be able to present them clearly. You've served from age 17 through 26. Just bring those experiences out on paper.
If you can take the time to retake the GMAT (take the time to retake - haha, idiomatic tongue twister ain't it!!!), do so by all means. A 700+ application in R2 may be stronger than a mid-600s (this is where you decide when you want to roll the dice). I took the Knewton prep course and found it very helpful (let me be clear rite now, I do not work for them - this is honestly my own opinion). I moved my score from a mid 600s to a 710.
Good luck bud. It'll all work out, it always does.
I wish you the best of luck. I'm with you in that GMAT is just a data point. Also, let's be clear of one thing, you have something most candidates don't - "real on the line leadership experience". We've all led teams, non-profits, family business, but heck, most of us were playing beer pong while you were serving in the trenches. So you've got something going for you bud, just know your strengths.
Last year, I applied for R2 and was wait-listed at a couple of top 10 programs (GMAT last year was a 640). From my experience, in R2 ad-com is less willing to take chances. They're attitude is to wait and see what comes along in R3. Most Einstein's wait and apply in R3. R1 is blank canvas, so you have that going for you.
Given your experience, I bet your goals are refined and you will be able to present them clearly. You've served from age 17 through 26. Just bring those experiences out on paper.
If you can take the time to retake the GMAT (take the time to retake - haha, idiomatic tongue twister ain't it!!!), do so by all means. A 700+ application in R2 may be stronger than a mid-600s (this is where you decide when you want to roll the dice). I took the Knewton prep course and found it very helpful (let me be clear rite now, I do not work for them - this is honestly my own opinion). I moved my score from a mid 600s to a 710.
Good luck bud. It'll all work out, it always does.
wp06 wrote:
I realize I was wrong, I have been super stressed and I am sure you have been as well.
Leaving the Army is a tough transition, and that is where I have to admit you struck a nerve with the inferiority complex. All I have known since I was 17-26 was the Army. I am intimidated by the process and yes that makes me nervous.
After reading our post again, I realized what you were saying and that I am wrong. I am definitely working on my GMAT, if I did not think it was important I would definitely not study as hard as I have been.
I am trying to go for programs that will make me become a better person and leader as well as learning critical skills.
I am realistic about my chances if my GMAT does not improve. Initially I was much more reserved in schools I was shooting for. I consulted with Alex, MBA Apply, and he told me I was selling myself short that I should shoot for some pretty crazy schools. So that also partially fueled my belief is other factors helping. But as you said, it only helps to a certain extent.
Right now I am applying to Wharton, MIT, and either NYU/Columbia (doing a visit during my leave in September) as reach schools
Duke, Cornell, and Georgetown (reach + a little luck)
So there is my life story out there. I think I have done with the essays, an old Army buddy of mine who is at MIT Sloan helped me revise them a bit and I am very confident in the essays and my work recommendations / awards and stuff.
I am going at the GMAT again soon, had to cancel a recent retake appointment at the last second due to a last minute change in training.
I hope the essays are going well for you and that you will not have ot waste any more time on these forums in stupid rant battles. I am embarassed for doing that, considering I am 26 and a veteran and should display much more maturity.
Best of luck. Hope to see you at Wharton (I believe in myself despite the mediocre score). Once again, my only original intent when this all started was to try to help out the 690 scorer, then things got dumb which was just as much my fault as anyone else's.
Take care
Leaving the Army is a tough transition, and that is where I have to admit you struck a nerve with the inferiority complex. All I have known since I was 17-26 was the Army. I am intimidated by the process and yes that makes me nervous.
After reading our post again, I realized what you were saying and that I am wrong. I am definitely working on my GMAT, if I did not think it was important I would definitely not study as hard as I have been.
I am trying to go for programs that will make me become a better person and leader as well as learning critical skills.
I am realistic about my chances if my GMAT does not improve. Initially I was much more reserved in schools I was shooting for. I consulted with Alex, MBA Apply, and he told me I was selling myself short that I should shoot for some pretty crazy schools. So that also partially fueled my belief is other factors helping. But as you said, it only helps to a certain extent.
Right now I am applying to Wharton, MIT, and either NYU/Columbia (doing a visit during my leave in September) as reach schools
Duke, Cornell, and Georgetown (reach + a little luck)
So there is my life story out there. I think I have done with the essays, an old Army buddy of mine who is at MIT Sloan helped me revise them a bit and I am very confident in the essays and my work recommendations / awards and stuff.
I am going at the GMAT again soon, had to cancel a recent retake appointment at the last second due to a last minute change in training.
I hope the essays are going well for you and that you will not have ot waste any more time on these forums in stupid rant battles. I am embarassed for doing that, considering I am 26 and a veteran and should display much more maturity.
Best of luck. Hope to see you at Wharton (I believe in myself despite the mediocre score). Once again, my only original intent when this all started was to try to help out the 690 scorer, then things got dumb which was just as much my fault as anyone else's.
Take care
Re: Calling all Wharton 2011 Applicants
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04 Sep 2010, 13:57
04 Sep 2010, 13:57
Hi,
People who are applying for Lauder as well, have you finished your OPI test??
Mine is scheduled for next Friday and am anxious to know what kind of Qs they ask and how does the conversation move along generally.
Any guidance would be much appreciated!!
People who are applying for Lauder as well, have you finished your OPI test??
Mine is scheduled for next Friday and am anxious to know what kind of Qs they ask and how does the conversation move along generally.
Any guidance would be much appreciated!!
Re: Calling all Wharton 2011 Applicants
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06 Sep 2010, 11:23
06 Sep 2010, 11:23
I'm headed to the campus visit on Monday 09/20/2010. Anyone else from here going? Really wanted to go on Thursday to partake in Pub Thursday but schedule wouldn't allow for it 
