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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2010, 16:11
wow... forgot how great this thread was. Keep it up, GMATClub class of 2010!
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2010, 16:34
Wow. Another reason why I was so addicted to this club then.
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2010, 19:46
Man, this thread rocks! I was in the middle of reading this on my iPhone, and it was low on batteries, so I had to turn my computer back on to keep reading this. Makes me feel better that I'm not the only poor schmuck going through this crap.
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2010, 21:47
The Adcom Equations:

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We're looking for a diverse group of students

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It's really important that you "fit" our culture

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We want applicants from all over the world, from every industry, department, ethnic background, sex, etc...in order to compare more applicants, lower our acceptance rate, and move up in the rankings

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We are looking for individuals with sufficient professional experience and a clear track record of promotions

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Did you know you don't need any work experience to apply!

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We want applicants from all over the world, from every industry, department, ethnic background, sex, AGE, etc...in order to compare more applicants, lower our acceptance rate, and move up in the rankings

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At our school, our dedicated staff and faculty promote forward thinking and participation in our close-knit community that prepares individuals to be action-oriented leaders.

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Please tell us why you applied to our school (remember you can't use the word "ranking")

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HAHAHAHAHAHA, try to answer that one you suckers!!!
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Re: [#permalink] New post 03 Aug 2010, 10:31
shmegs wrote:
It's one thing to have ulterior motives when doing an activity be it volunteering etc. but it's entirely different to exaggerate or falsify activities. I don't think an applicant's geographic origin matters, there is corruption everywhere. Personally, I think it's fine to finesse accomplishments a little (paint them in the best light) but if an applicant falsifies accomplishments to get into bschool it reflects poorly on his/her ethics.


I had to register to ask if you seen the "Impossible Is Nothing" (2006) Aleksey Vayner meme? If not I highly recommend you google it and get a good laugh. It's a video resume that is larger-than-life.
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 12 Aug 2010, 13:42
Hello guys

Here's what I want to tell you

I've never been good at writing tests, neither at school not at university, therefore I wasn't receiving high scores..
Although I haven't taken the GMAT exam yet I can predict that I'm not going to brake any records there..

But I can do some other things very successfully, for example to communicate with people for me is as easy as eating a cake and thanks to this I've been able to establish my own company..

Currently I must pay some Russian guys almost half a million dollar if I don't do so, they can easily come to my country, it will take them several hours, and will hang me upside-down..
I'm really going to pay them but after 3 weeks and deadline is just after 4 days..

If any of you, who scored 700+, can talk with them and postpone the deadline I offer you my chair and I'm not joking! You will get salary that you can just dream about..

I personally can call them and postpone the deadline, moreover they will continue doing business with me and will invest even more money in own business..

For this I don't need any GMAT score, neither do I need the TOEFL what I say is more than understandable..

So I do believe that GMAT has to be the least in evaluating people who are going to become CEOs and future business leaders although it's very good source to evaluate ones academic abilities..

Would like to here your point of view.

Thanks,
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 21 Feb 2011, 01:58
One more nugget. They do NOT read all of your application. Yes Sir, you heard it first here. I say this as I uploaded a ppt for an essay (the school asked the applicants to use any method they wanted. Guess which one it is) and they never even viewed the god damn thing and proceeded to send a ding letter.

I did ask them about this pecularity and was greeted with the "we take a holistic approach towards profile evaluation". Evasive much. Any ways my two cents are that if you are from India and have an average GMAT (read 720) then don't bother applying to at least the one school I mentioned here.
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 21 Feb 2011, 02:32
:) real feelings!
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 21 Feb 2011, 06:28
yes I agree. I cannot believe that schools read each and every application. Not possible. Not feasible. There has to be a prefilter of some sort - age, GPA, GMAT etc. and then to sound right, they might read a few below the cutoffs.. So technically they read some representative samples.
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 21 Feb 2011, 06:55
Yes, I agree but it kinda goes against the whole concept of we take consider all the components of your application while deciding. They should just come out and say that we filter applications based on x, y and z. Also if they do not go through the complete application, I wonder where my 250$ go!
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 21 Feb 2011, 12:46
Dear business schools,
For $250, can you please offer me a t-shirt, coffee mug or some retarded memorabilia worth $2.50 so I know I tried?
Regards,
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 21 Feb 2011, 15:38
Great thread!

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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 24 Feb 2011, 19:43
shr30 wrote:
Dear business schools,
For $250, can you please offer me a t-shirt, coffee mug or some retarded memorabilia worth $2.50 so I know I tried?
Regards,
Severely in debt applicant


YES!! That would be a fantastic recruiting tool, "Even if you get dinged, you'll get some sort of prize so you won't think of us as a-hole adcoms. We want to show our thanks for your valiant attempt to enter our ivory tower." :twisted:
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 25 Feb 2011, 04:14
"I applied to HBS and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 27 Feb 2011, 13:59
Here is some interesting maths for you guys

Assumptions

Applications received - 4500

Application Fee: 250$

Application Fee paid by 90% of the applicants

Total Applicatioin Fee collected ~ 1 million dollars

No of Admissions staff

Level 1 staff: 4; Salary: 30000 $ per year

Level 2 staff: 3; Salary: 60000 $ per year

Level 3 Staff: 3; Salary: 200000 $ per year

Time Spent by the admissions staff in the application process

Level 1 staff: 6 months

Level 2 staff: 4 months

Level 3 staff: 3 months

Therefore total expenditure on the admissions team: 0.27 million dollars

Further analysis would yield that with the above org structure the admissions team should be able to read 100% of the applications with a three stage filtering.

Stage 1: 30% of application rejected by Level 1 staff reading ~9 applications in a day

Stage 2: Another 50% out of the remaining applications being rejected by Level 2 staff ~ 12 applicatioins in a day

Step 3: Another 50% out of the remaining applicatioins being rejected by Level 3 staff ~ 11 applications in a day

As you can see that the argument that schools do not have the time to read all the applications kinda falls flat after going through the data. I don't think most schools even employ even 10 people in their admissions team.
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2011, 13:27
I'd so wear that and pajamas and go interview HBS kids when I'm a mega-zillionaire.
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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2011, 15:03
When I was filling out Haas’ application I about puked in my mouth.

Other than Haas I actually started enjoying the apps after a while. It was a great learning process.

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Re: Bad Attitude [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2011, 15:13
runnergirl wrote:
"I applied to HBS and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"


90% of applicants don't even get a t-shirt. Congrats on your accomplishment!

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