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Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who [#permalink] New post   09 Jan 2005, 14:11
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Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who salted Roman fields during the Punic Wars despite the existence of credible evidence to the contrary.
(A) as the ones who salted
(B) as the salters of
(C) for salting
(D) with having salted
(E) with the salting of

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OA IS (D)


How to choose between "having salted" and "the salting of"?



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Re: Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who [#permalink] New post   09 Jan 2005, 14:19
Similar one from the OG

Egyptians are credited as having pioneered embalming methods as long as 2650 B.C.

b)with having
c)to have
d)as the ones who
e)for being the ones who

should I post the explantaion??
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Re: Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who [#permalink] New post   09 Jan 2005, 14:31
Hi qhoc0010, This one from GMAT800 rt? I remember to have picked E and than looked for a proper exp. Ok read the sentence with E.

Credited WITH salting of---> dosen't it read as if he credit given to THEM is " the salting ....." and don't you think a helping verb is missing. Because they were credited FOR something. Well E wud have been correct if it were " GIVEN CREDIT FOR....."

I hope I am able to put FWD my point properly.

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Re: Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who [#permalink] New post   09 Jan 2005, 14:33
I know the one from OG is easy b/c the idiom is tested here "credit with...". However, my question is from Kaplan 800 which gave 2 choices:
(D) with having salted
(E) with the salting of

I have no problem to figure out the idiom in this case. But how can you know which one is better "the salting of" or "having salted". I think "having salted" sounds clumsy but I was wrong. Can someone educate me with the native speaker's common sense?
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Re: Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who [#permalink] New post   10 Jan 2005, 12:18
having + V3 verb (3 rd form of the verb) is the correct use, as the action has been completed in the past, and we are talking about it.
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Re: Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who [#permalink] New post   10 Jan 2005, 14:15
nocilis wrote:
having + V3 verb (3 rd form of the verb) is the correct use, as the action has been completed in the past, and we are talking about it.


In addition to nocilis and in my own opinion, I am always very careful with the '...ing' form of the verb. Remember, it is used in 2 instances:

1. To show Continuous Action (I am studying for the gmat)
2. To indicate that another action took place while one was on (I was eating while you were sleeping).

Salting as in E shows continuous action (seems as if the roman fields are still being salted as i write).
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Re: Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who [#permalink] New post   10 Jan 2005, 14:15
nocilis wrote:
having + V3 verb (3 rd form of the verb) is the correct use, as the action has been completed in the past, and we are talking about it.


In addition to nocilis and in my own opinion, I am always very careful with the '...ing' form of the verb. Remember, it is used in 2 instances:

1. To show Continuous Action (I am studying for the gmat)
2. To indicate that another action took place while one was on (I was eating while you were sleeping).

Salting as in E shows continuous action (seems as if the roman fields are still being salted as i write). So it's D also for me.
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Re: Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who [#permalink] New post   10 Jan 2005, 14:33
good explanations Arsene_Wenger

Also, credit with (verb/verb clause) is right

in E it is credit with (Noun/gerund/noun clause) wrong
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Re: Carthaginians are still commonly credited as the ones who [#permalink] New post   10 Jan 2005, 14:42
praveen_rao7 wrote:
good explanations Arsene_Wenger

Also, credit with (verb/verb clause) is right

in E it is credit with (Noun/gerund/noun clause) wrong


Praveen Rao and Arsene_Wenger - great explanation. This question is very good as I have not considered this type of question/situation



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