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Dr. Schilling: Those who advocate replacing my country s [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2010, 23:51
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Dr. Schilling: Those who advocate replacing my country’s private health insurance system with nationalized health insurance because of the rising costs of medical care fail to consider the high human costs that consumers pay in countries with nationalized insurance: access to high-technology medicine is restricted. Kidney transplants and open-heart surgery—familiar life-saving procedures—are rationed. People are denied their right to treatments they want and need.
Dr. Laforte: Your country’s reliance on private health insurance denies access even to basic, conventional medicine to the many people who cannot afford adequate health coverage. With nationalized insurance, rich and poor have equal access to life-saving medical procedures. And people’s right to decent medical treatment regardless of income is not violated.

Dr. Schilling’s and Dr. Laforte’s statements provide the most support for holding that they would disagree about the truth of which one of the following?

(A) People’s rights are violated less when they are denied an available medical treatment they need because they lack the means to pay for it than when they are denied such treatment on noneconomic grounds.
(B) Where health insurance is provided by private insurance companies, people who are wealthy generally receive better health care than do people who are unable to afford health insurance.
(C) In countries that rely primarily on private health insurance to pay for medical costs, most people who would benefit from a kidney transplant receive one.
(D) In countries with nationalized health insurance, no one who needs a familiar medical treatment in order to stay alive is denied that treatment.
(E) Anyone who wants a particular medical treatment has a right to receive that treatment.
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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 00:05
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Dr. Schilling: Those who advocate replacing my country’s private health insurance system with nationalized health insurance because of the rising costs of medical care fail to consider the high human costs that consumers pay in countries with nationalized insurance: access to high-technology medicine is restricted. Kidney transplants and open-heart surgery—familiar life-saving procedures—are rationed. People are denied their right to treatments they want and need.
Dr. Laforte: Your country’s reliance on private health insurance denies access even to basic, conventional medicine to the many people who cannot afford adequate health coverage. With nationalized insurance, rich and poor have equal access to life-saving medical procedures. And people’s right to decent medical treatment regardless of income is not violated.

Dr. Schilling’s and Dr. Laforte’s statements provide the most support for holding that they would disagree about the truth of which one of the following?

The correct answer must be disagreed by both the doctors

(A) People’s rights are violated less when they are denied an available medical treatment they need because they lack the means to pay for it than when they are denied such treatment on noneconomic grounds.Correct !! Both disagree
(B) Where health insurance is provided by private insurance companies, people who are wealthy generally receive better health care than do people who are unable to afford health insurance. Dr. L agree with this.
(C) In countries that rely primarily on private health insurance to pay for medical costs, most people who would benefit from a kidney transplant receive one.Out of scope and quite extreme.
(D) In countries with nationalized health insurance, no one who needs a familiar medical treatment in order to stay alive is denied that treatment. Out of scope.
(E) Anyone who wants a particular medical treatment has a right to receive that treatment.Dr S denies this in context of nationalized insurance not on general grounds. Both of them could agree but it depends upon the type of insurance.


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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 01:30
i trapped in this marked E........:(

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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 04:29
I couldn't deny E too. Can anyone explain little more on that?

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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 05:40
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I couldn't deny E too. Can anyone explain little more on that?


Question:Dr. Schilling’s and Dr. Laforte’s statements provide the most support for holding that they would disagree about the truth of which one of the following?

(E) Anyone who wants a particular medical treatment has a right to receive that treatment.

Dr. Schilling: Those who advocate replacing my country’s private health insurance system with nationalized health insurance because of the rising costs of medical care fail to consider the high human costs that consumers pay in countries with nationalized insurance: access to high-technology medicine is restricted. Kidney transplants and open-heart surgery—familiar life-saving procedures—are rationed. People are denied their right to treatments they want and need.

Dr. Laforte: Your country’s reliance on private health insurance denies access even to basic, conventional medicine to the many people who cannot afford adequate health coverage. With nationalized insurance, rich and poor have equal access to life-saving medical procedures. And people’s right to decent medical treatment regardless of income is not violated.

1st bolded : Dr. Schilling disagree with E in context of nationalized insurance only. Since he is arguing that 'nationalized insurance' may cause '1st Bolded part', it implies that he may or may not agree with 'E' in context of 'private health insurance'

2nd bolded: Dr. Laforte actually agree with 'E' in context of nationalized insurance. He may or may not agree with 'E' in context of 'private health insurance'.

For the Answer to be 'E' , both should disagree with 'E' .

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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 09:10
gurpreetsingh, good explanation.

I was initially trapped too, I guess it was the unusual wording of the question. However, figured out that the correct choice should disagree with both the docs.

A - correct

B - Dr. L says

C - Irrelevant

D - Irrelevant

E - Both agree in their own ways

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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 15 Sep 2010, 19:56
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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 16 Sep 2010, 00:46
Why is C "out of scope" ? :?
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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2011, 18:10
The answer is A.

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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2011, 22:40
(A) People’s rights are violated less when they are denied an available medical treatment they need because they lack the means to pay for it than when they are denied such treatment on noneconomic grounds. Dr Schilling is saying that limited access to high tech medicine to people who can afford to pay is wrong. The limits to access for this segment is not because of lack of resources 9economic grounds) but because of ‘non-availability /restriction on access due to availability etc.’ – non economic grounds. And Schilling argues this is wrong- in accordance with what is stated in statement A- if enied on non-economic means- it is more of a violation.
Laforte says that people should never be denied access to a treatment because they are poor and cant afford it. Clearly this is against what is stated in statement A – that denying on economic grouns is less of a violation.
Clearly both doctors differ in their views on Statement A - one agrees while the other is against it, hence correct option.

(B) Where health insurance is provided by private insurance companies, people who are wealthy generally receive better health care than do people who are unable to afford health insurance. Both Schilling and Laforte know this is true – they differ not in agreeing to the truth of this statement, they differ in their attitude towards whether this is right or not.

(C) In countries that rely primarily on private health insurance to pay for medical costs, most people who would benefit from a kidney transplant receive one.No, both doctors are disagreeing to this. Laforte says that in pvt insurance, poor people who need a kidney treatment will not receive it because they cant afford to pay, while Schilling is saying that because of access being limited to high tech medicine including kidney transplant – there would be people who would not get it, whether rich or poor – no difference in views towards this statement – hence incorrect.

(D) In countries with nationalized health insurance, no one who needs a familiar medical treatment in order to stay alive is denied that treatment. Both the doctors agree that nationalized insurance wull provide access to basic, conventional medicine – not differing in their views on this. Hence incorrect option.
(E) Anyone who wants a particular medical treatment has a right to receive that treatment.Both the arguments are through different reasons disagreeing to this. By Dr Schilling’s argument poorer people would end up not having means to pay for the medical treatment and would end up getting denied the treatment, while by Lafote’s argument some people, whether poor or rich will get denoed the treatment under nationalized insurance because of access being restricted due to availability. Hence both disagree- and don’t differ in their attitude towards statement E
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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2011, 23:39
E. Hence both disagree- and don’t differ in their attitude towards statement E

(E) Anyone who wants a particular medical treatment has a right to receive that treatment.
I think Dr. Schilling agrees but Dr. Laforte has no stance

Dr. Laforte: Your country’s reliance on private health insurance denies access even to basic, conventional medicine to the many people who cannot afford adequate health coverage. With nationalized insurance, rich and poor have equal access to life-saving medical procedures. And people’s right to decent medical treatment regardless of income is not violated. ---> he certanily did not qualify the rights of the people with this example.
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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2011, 23:55
Yes, but if this is a conversation and Dr Schilling has already pointed out that even under nationalised insurance, because of restricted access to high tech medicine- there would be some people who would not be able to access this, and nothing in Laforte's argument refutes that- he is in implied agreement. Otherwise, he is saying that if anyone- say a rich person- wants a treatment he should be given it -but what when the treatment is not available-or restrcited in access due to non economic reasons? Isnt that person's right then violated?

I think the line between disagree and neutral is sort of thin here, but he certainly doesnt agree- and that is how we could eliminate this option.
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Re: Dr Schiling [#permalink] New post 11 Apr 2011, 04:08
+1 to A. Its pretty convoluted but captures the info that both disagree.
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