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Continuing the regional theme started with the Canada MBA Discussion, we arrive at the Europe MBA Discussion.
Please use this thread for GENERAL questions comparing/contrasting programs in Europe including the United Kingdom and Ireland. Please post information about SPECIFIC schools under that school's review.
The list below is by no means comprehensive. However, I will gladly add other schools if there is enough demand.
If you have any questions about French MBA or UK/Spain MBA, you can contact me, I'll give you some insights (I am french )
Do you think it's better to obtain an MBA in the US or in a European country? Are there any differences? Do you know if there are any business schools in Europe that would consider an applicant that just came otu of college?
Actually now there are many excellent MBA in Europe, in France, Switzerland, UK and Spain especially so I don't think there should be any problem betwen the different MBA.
However I would like to point out the fact that the MBA is more like a US degree even if it is normally international. the MBA degree is not as important in Europe as it is in the US.
In Europe our system is different, usually you have to study 4 or 5 years to get a Master's Degree, but then you can go on for one additional year (more like a specilisation in a specific field) and do what we call a Mastere or DESS and finally the MBA would come on top of all this which means for some people around 7 years of study if you go into a program directly after university !!! (which is not very common).
I think that doing a MBA in USA is the best possible way, however it doesn't mean the content will be better. Strategy for the future.
One important thing to be taken into account is the cost : MBA in USa is more expensive and it will certainly last 2 years whereas in Europe the cost is more affordable and the MBA will generally be done in 1 year.
Finally, in my mind, I think that it should be easier to be accepted in a US MBA after graduation, in Europe they tend to prefer older and experienced persons.
The FT and EIU agree that INSEAD, IE, IESE, and IMD are among the top five programs in Europe. They both place LBS and HEC among the top ten programs in Europe.
FT2005 Ranking Europe
London Business School
University College Dublin
Trinity College Dublin
Vlerick Leuven Gent
Henley Management College
London Business School
ESADE Business School
Imperial College London
Aston Business School
Manchester Business School
Newcastle upon Tyne
ESSEC Business School
Bocconi University - SDA Bocconi School of Management
Rotterdam School of Management
Solvay Business School
Bradford School of Management
International University of Monaco
Institut d'Etudes Politiques de Paris
London Business School
Actually ESSEC and HEC are both the best BS in France, in all rankings.
Usually ESSEC is first because it seems they regularly check and improve the contents of the different courses so I would rank them 1st.
However it seems in MBa ranking HEc is better, so not easy to see. If you are interested to work in France, they have quite the same status : best school
For this it should be interesting to have the opinion of other members from this board. In my mind, I would definitely go to IMD, INSEAD or LBS. I think that HEC and ESSEC are not recognized enough in Europe to be valuable. Spanish B-schools, such as IE or IESE, are more known than HEC or ESSEC so if I had to choose I would prefer to go there. This my personal opinion of course.
It seems to me that, unless you are considering general management, or management related field, US schools are better for students. LBS is the only one that has an impressive Finance track, I could be wrong here. IMD and INSEAD both are one year programs, I can't imagine taking a serious finance path attending either or any one year program. Althought the idea of learning French and study there does seem very very attractive for me. What seems strange to me is that IESE rates very high in almost all publications, yet I've heard so little about the school. My co-worker of mine went to ESADE, he never even mentioned IESE to me.
My question is, what are the job placement rates among the schools, not just in Europe, but coming back to the US and find jobs?
Yes you can if you compensate with good GMAT, good essays, good work exp and good extra curriculars. It doesn't have to be all 3 but I believe that for schools in the UK, a high GMAT will definitely help you a lot.
I'm going to be heading to ESADE this fall for the 18-month program. If anyone else is in the same boat or has questions let me know and I'll try to answer, I've been researching B-schools for almost two years now. ESADE was the only place I chose to apply.
I'm planning to apply for ESADE class 2008 at the beginning of next year. Would that be a good time to apply for it ? When did u apply for it ? How long did the whole process take ? What's your profile ?
I am looking at doing a reasonably priced 1 year MBA from a well-known and respected business school that offers recruitment into Trading at an I-bank (or other investment firm). Basically, I am looking for prestige (brand name recognition) and a good cost-benefit ratio. I would like to work in UK, Ireland, Netherlands, Switzerland, or Germany. Germany/Switzerland would be my ideal places (I currently live in Germany), followed by UK/Ireland and the Netherlands.
I have researched many schools over here in Europe, but I'm looking to bounce a couple names off of everyone to solicit your feedback/comments. My problem is that I do not know which schools the International/European I-banks prefer to recruit from within Europe, and specifcally along the Trading career track.
Here's my current list (in no order of preference):
1) City University: Cass
2) Imperical College London: Tanaka
8) HHL Leipzig
9) WHU: Otto Beishem Koblenz
12) TiasNimbas (Tilburg)
14) University College Dublin: Smurfit
15) Trinity College Dublin
17) St. Gallen
If anyone would like to help me in narrowing this list down, I greatly appreciate it.
I am surprised that in looking for a reasonably priced MBA you have 2 london schools at the top of your list. Your living expenses in London will be very high and if you are doing a full-time course that would count as part of your study expenses.