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Stoolfi ur explanation for statement (2) is good. I dont know why I miss out those things. Probably due to time constrains. Anyways from (1) we are given that PR= sqrt 3, we know that PR=OR (Bisects), so OP will be 2sqrt3 and as both OP and OS are radius, OP=OS. So OS= 2sqrt3

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In the figure above, O is the center of the circle. If OP and QS are perpendicular and bisect each other. What is the length of OS?

1) The length of PR is \(\sqrt{3}\) 2) The length of QS is 6

Please provide detailed explanations!

In the given figure,OS=OP=radius "r" and PR=RO=r/2 QR=RS,angleORS=90 degrees We need find length of OS, which is radius of the circle

From stmt 1)PR= [square_root]3 and PR=r/2 hence radius=2*[square_root]3, hence 1 alone is sufficient From stmt 2)QS=6 => RS=3 (OP is bisector of QS,R is the midpoint of QS) OS=radius=r and OR=r/2 (R is the midpoint of OP, OP being the radius of the circle) r^2=(r/2)^2+3^2 r=2*[square_root]3 Hence stmt 2 alone is sufficient

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fozzzy wrote:

Is there any property tested here? I'm really clueless when it comes to geometry...

In the figure above, O is the center of the circle. If OP and QS are perpendicular and bisect each other. What is the length of OS?

Notice that OS is the radius of the circle.

(1) The length of PR is \(\sqrt{3}\). PR is half of the radius, so the radius is twice of that. Sufficient.

(2) The length of QS is 6. This one tests pythagorean theorem. Triangle ORS is a right triangle. We know that RS=QS/2=3 and we know that the other two sides are r (OS) and r/2 (OR) --> r^2=(r/2)^2+3^2 --> \(r=2\sqrt{3}\). Sufficient.

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So for such questions never rely on the figure. In this particular question, the figure is misleading.

Why it's misleading?

OG13, page 150: Figures: A figure accompanying a problem solving question is intended to provide information useful in solving the problem. Figures are drawn as accurately as possible. Exceptions will be clearly noted. Lines shown as straight are straight, and lines that appear jagged are also straight. The positions of points, angles, regions, etc., exist in the order shown, and angle measures are greater than zero. All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

OG13, page 272: A figure accompanying a data sufficiency problem will conform to the information given in the question but will not necessarily conform to the additional information given in statements (1) and (2). Lines shown as straight can be assumed to be straight and lines that appear jagged can also be assumed to be straight. You may assume that the positions of points, angles, regions, and so forth exist in the order shown and that angle measures are greater than zero degrees. All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

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Bunuel wrote:

fozzzy wrote:

So for such questions never rely on the figure. In this particular question, the figure is misleading.

Why it's misleading?

OG13, page 150: Figures: A figure accompanying a problem solving question is intended to provide information useful in solving the problem. Figures are drawn as accurately as possible. Exceptions will be clearly noted. Lines shown as straight are straight, and lines that appear jagged are also straight. The positions of points, angles, regions, etc., exist in the order shown, and angle measures are greater than zero. All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

OG13, page 272: A figure accompanying a data sufficiency problem will conform to the information given in the question but will not necessarily conform to the additional information given in statements (1) and (2). Lines shown as straight can be assumed to be straight and lines that appear jagged can also be assumed to be straight. You may assume that the positions of points, angles, regions, and so forth exist in the order shown and that angle measures are greater than zero degrees. All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

Hope it helps.

Hi Bunuel, question for you How do we know that PR = OR from the fact that the chord is perpendicular to the radius? I mean what's the property here if you will Thanks Cheers J

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jlgdr wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

fozzzy wrote:

So for such questions never rely on the figure. In this particular question, the figure is misleading.

Why it's misleading?

OG13, page 150: Figures: A figure accompanying a problem solving question is intended to provide information useful in solving the problem. Figures are drawn as accurately as possible. Exceptions will be clearly noted. Lines shown as straight are straight, and lines that appear jagged are also straight. The positions of points, angles, regions, etc., exist in the order shown, and angle measures are greater than zero. All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

OG13, page 272: A figure accompanying a data sufficiency problem will conform to the information given in the question but will not necessarily conform to the additional information given in statements (1) and (2). Lines shown as straight can be assumed to be straight and lines that appear jagged can also be assumed to be straight. You may assume that the positions of points, angles, regions, and so forth exist in the order shown and that angle measures are greater than zero degrees. All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

Hope it helps.

Hi Bunuel, question for you How do we know that PR = OR from the fact that the chord is perpendicular to the radius? I mean what's the property here if you will Thanks Cheers J

We are told that OP and QS are perpendicular and bisect each other, which means that PR = OR and QR = RS.

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From statement 2.) it seems like we know that triangle ORS is a 30:60:90. How do we know this?

I think I got it but I want to be sure:

We know OP = OS because they are both radiuses. QS bisects OP so OR (where R is the midpoint of OP) is equal to 1/2 OS. We can say that OS = 2x and OR = x. From statement 2 we know that QS = 6 and RS therefore must = 3 because it is bisected by OP. We can now set up Pythagorean equation a^2 + b^2 = c^2 --> x^2 + 3^2 = 2x^2 --> x^2 + 9 = 2x^2 --> Subtract x^2 from both sides --> x^2 = 9 --> x = 3. If x = 3, then 2x (i.e. line OS) = 6.

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