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I'm in my last semester of my undergraduate. I am majoring in Industrial Technology with a concentration in Manufacturing, at a state school in PA. I will graduate with a ~3.15 out of 4.0

I have 8 years of management experience in the retail/service field, including managing staffs of 8-10 people, multiple concurrent project management, budget management and more.

I have 18 months experience working as a production worker in a factory directly following highschool.

I recently completed a summer manufacturing management internship at a large well known cereal manufacturing plant, whom has hired me on as a contracted employee until my December graduation. We are currently in talks about a fulltime supervisor position following my graduation.

I owned and operated my own retail/service store for 2 years before dissolving the business due to irreconcilable zoning issues.

During my undergraduate studies I was elected the president of the student Society of Manufacturing Engineers chapter two years in a row.

Also during the past two years I have completed two professional certifications, one for a Six Sigma Green Belt, and the other is a Lean Manufacturing Certification. I also have attended a half dozen other professional development courses, seminars, etc. All of this is on my own, outside of academic requirements, or expectations. I've done it all for my own advancement.

Now the kick in the a##. Out of highschool (1997) I had no interest in attending college but did anyway. I withdrew from my first semester of school with only passing one class with a C. I then puttered around in a community college for 2 years with several failing grades. In 2000 I became serious about my education and began attending the school I will be graduating from in December. At that point, I was a bit older, completely self supporting and really kind of poor. Some financial hardships made for a rough semester or two in the middle of my five years here. Needless to say my academic record isn't real smooth. I can say that it has progressively gotten better, with a small dip in the middle of the past five years, but a good solid last two years. I will be graduating with a ~3.15, however this isn't any Harvard either.

I've been getting upper 600's in my Kaplan practice GMAT tests, and plan to study for another month or so and then hit the real thing, I'd like to think I can bang out a clean 700 when I do so.

I am primarily interested in Manufacturing Management/MBA programs. Penn Stata(smeal) offers a nice dual degree consisting of a Masters in Manufacturing Management concurrent with a Smeal MBA.

My stretch school, which is what this question is really looking for a response to, is Kellogg. Kellogg offers a Master of Management and Manufacturing, as well as the obvious MBA which can likely be done as a concurrent dual degree program similar to Penn State.

What are my chances at a top MBA school like Kellogg, with this background? And who knows ofother MBA/Manufacturing Mangement programs out there?

My career goal is to work my way up the chain of operations within a manufacturing company. I'd like to come out of the MBA/MMM obtaining a Business Unit Manager type of position and move up to Operations Manager then Plant Manager, then who knows...

Thanks in advance for the input.
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Hate to break it to you, but most schools probably won't recognize the 8 years unless they were full-time years and that you did while you weren't in school. Doesn't mean they're completely null and void -- you can still definitely use the experiences. It just means that they probably won't count toward the work experience ticker. That in of itself probably makes Kellogg a pretty big stretch for you.

You should consider Michigan State (Broad), and Ohio State (Fisher) in addition to Smeal (which is a great program by the way).
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The eight years, were all fulltime, some prior and some during my undergraduate work. In my eyes the 8 years of management should show excellent leadership aptitude, along with some of the business growth I obtained during those years. And what about the small business venture, that although profitable, just simply wouldn't fly with the zoning board.

It is also a gut feeling to me, that Kellogg is a stretch. However I feel more so because of my overall academic track record. Although I am graduating with a decent GPA, the first few years were horrible, and once I finally became serious, I did have a dip right in the middle of the five years I am finishing up here.

Do you think the lack of real solid experience, is more of a drawback than the academic record?

Thanks for the input.

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I have no doubt that the eight years of experience that you have were incredibly beneficial to your growth. Business schools are just notorious for focusing on post-undergraduate work experience. Was the work experience prior to undergrad while you were in high school or did you take a break between high school and undergrad.

Yes, it sounds like you've had some ups and downs with the GPA. But, a 3.15 isn't horrible and the fact that it trended up during your last couple years is a positive signal to the admissions committe. It sounds like you have a very viable story to tell around your GPA. That's why I'm focusing more on your work experience. I'm personally not trying to knock your experience, but I know for a fact that many admissions committees discount work experience that occurred during or before undergrad. So, just keep in mind that you'll probably have to make a strong case as to why your eight years during and before undergrad are equivalent to post grad experiences.
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